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To: AuntB

AuntB, please see OrthodoxPresbyterian’s comments on post #1 of this thread.

FRegards,

The_Eaglet


239 posted on 05/12/2007 9:26:08 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet; AuntB
Ron Paul voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

Yeah, about that Secure Fence Act...

Guess who not only voted for it, but coauthored it? ;)

Duncan Hunter: A Man of Action

246 posted on 05/12/2007 9:59:28 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: The_Eaglet; Ultra Sonic 007

Thanks, Eaglet. Here’s what was posted:

* Ron Paul voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. “Amnesty for lawbreakers is not the answer, and it’s time to rethink birthright citizenship,” Paul added. (”Paul Votes for Stronger Border Security”)
* Ron Paul is a co-sponsor of HR 487, which “expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a NAFTA superhighway or enter into any plans to create a North American Union between Canada, the U.S., and Mexico.”
* “We need to allocate far more resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase.” – Ron Paul (source)
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Now, as I asked before, show me one piece of legislation that Ron Paul has INTRODUCED (sponsored) to secure the borders. His speech sited above is from 2006. Show me where he has come out against illegal immigration before that — Ron Paul is late to this game.

Let’s look at some of his history. Ron Paul has done some good things, but immigration was never one of them until recently!

http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_tst.htm:

Trade 1998: “ Unless a nation represents a clear and present danger to our national security, we should allow, even encourage, our best ambassadors ... to engage in mutually beneficial trade with people of all nations and regions. As goods are traded, so are ideas. And just as American products are the finest in the world, so too is the philosophy of liberty.

Trade 1999: Free trade, not isolationism or subsidization, is the most moral of instruments between men. Engagement, not irrational fear or political paybacks, is the best force for bringing change to China and our relations with its people.

Trade, 2005: statement on HR 3283, the United States Trade Rights Enforcement Act Mr. Speaker: I rise in strong opposition to this legislation. Mr. Speaker, in addition to the irony of the protectionist flavor of this bill, let me say that we should be careful what we demand of the Chinese government. Take the demand that the government “revalue” its currency, for example. This will disproportionately affect Americans of lower incomes and, as a consequence, slow the economy and increase the hardship of those struggling to get by
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Through all his writings and all his speeches, this is what I found on immigration before 2006, I have found NO legislation by him to control the problem:

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2002/tst010702.htm
“Common sense tells us that we currently should not be admitting aliens from nations that sponsor or harbor terrorists, or from nations with whom we are at war.” (otherwise he mentions nothing about the 20 mil aliens)

On the ‘Tips’ program where citizens report unusual activity by possible terrorists we might see (Does he approve of the guy that turned in the Albanians???):

July, 2002, “Busybodies across the country will clamor to join the effort and act as self-appointed neighborhood vigilantes. Unscrupulous individuals of every stripe will abuse the program by snitching on ex-spouses, personal enemies, and racial groups they don’t like. Bickering neighbors will enjoy calling in to report unkempt lawns and barking dogs as sure signs of nefarious activity.A civilized and free society would not be discussing, much less seriously debating, any proposal to enlist private citizens to act as federal neighborhood snitches. “

This seems to be his immigration policy:

(2005) “If we took some of the steps I have outlined here - eliminating the welfare state and securing our borders - we could effectively address the problem of illegal immigration in a manner that would not undermine the freedom of American citizens”

(2006) This is a curious statement: “And while cheap labor certainly benefits the economy as a whole, when calculating the true cost of illegal immigration we must include the cost of social services that many new immigrants consume- especially medical care. “

“The immigration problem fundamentally is a welfare state problem. “ -( What about punishing employers who break the law?? )


255 posted on 05/12/2007 10:48:02 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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