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RON PAUL, not Mitt Romney, won the first GOP Debate
Renew America ^ | May 8, 2007 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 05/11/2007 3:15:42 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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To: TomB
None of the Paul supporters ever bothered to respond to his actual words in those videos. They just changed the subject and moved on.

They're "truthers," Tom. They genuinely, earnestly believe -- just as their lizard-like savior du jour demonstrably does -- that President Bush and/or the rest of the "gub'mint" actually brought down the WTC towers, and cold-bloodedly murdered 3000+ human beings. And you're seriously expecting logical, rational thought from a sorry, Gump-like lot such as these...? ;)

Incidentally: try Googling "Ron Paul" alongside such interesting phrases as (oh, say) "black males," and "Zio-Nazi." Whole lotta real... interesting past writings of his still perfectly accessible to any and all curious readers. (Evidently, no one's ever told either RP or his clown funnycar supporters that the internet is, like, forever. Duh.)

221 posted on 05/12/2007 3:56:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Thank God for True Christian Conservatives like RON PAUL!!

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Speaking of true Christian conservatives:

Duncan Hunter on Abortion

Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)

Voted YES on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)

Voted YES on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)

Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003) Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)

Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)

Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)

Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)

Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)

Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

222 posted on 05/12/2007 4:26:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Fred Thompson kills at least one terrorist every day before he even has his first cup of coffee.

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He probably kills because he hasn't had his first cup of coffee. But maybe I'm projecting.

223 posted on 05/12/2007 4:36:33 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Incidentally: try Googling "Ron Paul" alongside such interesting phrases as (oh, say) "black males," and "Zio-Nazi." Whole lotta real... interesting past writings of his still perfectly accessible to any and all curious readers. (Evidently, no one's ever told either RP or his clown funnycar supporters that the internet is, like, forever. Duh.)

Heh. Well, I avoided posting links to his comments on one world government and “Powerful banking interests” (hint, hint).

224 posted on 05/12/2007 5:07:18 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: Capitalism2003

Wrong.


225 posted on 05/12/2007 7:02:41 AM PDT by pissant
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To: feedback doctor; OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush
Ron Paul will bring our troops home! Of course we’ll need them here to fight the islamofascists in our streets.

News flash for ya: They're already here, having come over the Mexican border.

Yeah, that 'take the fight to the terrorist on their turf' policy works real well </sarcasm>

Just ask the people at Ft. Dix how safe they feel now that we're battling the terrorists in Iraq, (not that it does them any good, cause they're at Ft. Dix for preparation for deployment to Iraq).

At least Ron Paul would secure that border where it is no longer analgous to a water-tight compartment on the Titanic.

226 posted on 05/12/2007 7:04:09 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
This must be Paul week. His seminar callers were all over the conservative talk show(s) yesterday and then this posting earlier in the week. Sorry guys the dude is unelectable. Soon as they left tags his as Libertarian he will be toast.
227 posted on 05/12/2007 7:06:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (NSDQ)
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To: Vaquero

So you want the Thompson/Norris ticket?


228 posted on 05/12/2007 7:09:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$
This must be Paul week. His seminar callers were all over the conservative talk show(s) yesterday and then this posting earlier in the week.

It started with the debate and then the story on his supporters stuffing the ballot box in the online after-debate polls. This is the most coverage he's received, so it would make sense to make the most of it.

The bad part (for him) is that his previous nutty statements are now going to see the light of day, and that will cost him support with all but his staunchest supporters.

229 posted on 05/12/2007 7:24:00 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord; AuntB
At least Ron Paul would secure that border where it is no longer analgous to a water-tight compartment on the Titanic.

Newsflash: you have candidates who would secure the border as well as Ron Paul who aren't for surrender. One of them is the guy in my tagline.

230 posted on 05/12/2007 7:35:25 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: death2tyrants

We don’t claim territory anymore, just like we don’t declare war anymore. It’s archaic overkill. /s


231 posted on 05/12/2007 7:37:15 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: KDD; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Don’t expect a response from Kent...

there are many so-called conservatives who seem to understand that the federal government is not a social institution, but rather an anti-social institution filled with careerist bureaucrats that routinely lie, are corrupt, incompetent,inefficient and wasteful with individual Americans’ lives and money...except for matters of the military, of course...then these “conservatives” seem to believe that the federal government should be fully trusted and our elected officials should never be questioned or criticized.


232 posted on 05/12/2007 8:19:34 AM PDT by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: trisham

Thanks for the stats on Hunter.


233 posted on 05/12/2007 8:45:42 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Irontank
then these “conservatives” seem to believe that the federal government should be fully trusted and our elected officials should never be questioned or criticized.

That certainly is not a conservative belief.

234 posted on 05/12/2007 8:50:41 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Irontank
So you believe, as does Ron Paul, that the US is going to fake an attack by Iran to justify an invasion?

Do you also believe that there was a government consipiracy on 9-11, and that there should be another goverment investigation?

235 posted on 05/12/2007 9:00:36 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: johnny7
Libertarians tend to be that way. But, his version sounds right:"We need to allocate far more resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase." – Ron Paul
236 posted on 05/12/2007 9:05:07 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: The_Eaglet
No problem. More here:

http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm

237 posted on 05/12/2007 9:07:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Newsflash: you have candidates who would secure the border as well as Ron Paul who aren't for surrender

So, did the Ron Paul fans ever show us what legislation he's ever put forth to secure the borders? I can't find it.

238 posted on 05/12/2007 9:14:34 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

AuntB, please see OrthodoxPresbyterian’s comments on post #1 of this thread.

FRegards,

The_Eaglet


239 posted on 05/12/2007 9:26:08 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: TomB

OK, I watched the video, I confess it is troubling, but, I do think his tone was more of a “Hey, I don’t trust the government on anything so I’m always open to an investigation” as opposed to the truthers “It is definetly LIHOP or MIHOP”.


240 posted on 05/12/2007 9:30:00 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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