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The Other Side of Global Warming
Streamwood Examiner ^ | May 2 thru May 23, 2007 | Dr. Lar Trzupek & Rich Trzupek

Posted on 05/11/2007 6:31:55 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa

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Parts 2, 3 and 4 at the website.
1 posted on 05/11/2007 6:31:56 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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41 percent disagree that the planet's recent warmth "can be, in large part, attributed to human activity."

Given 100 scientists, 59 of whom believe in anthropogenic climate change, if I change the minds of 10 of them, does that mean the science has changed, and you scaremongers will shut up?

2 posted on 05/11/2007 6:37:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (the Prophet said, ‘If (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ - HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260])
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3 posted on 05/11/2007 6:40:42 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Brad Cloven; Hegewisch Dupa

Is there a link to that 2006 survey? I have never seen it.


4 posted on 05/11/2007 6:41:33 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Everyone wants a simple answer; but sometimes there isn't a simple answer)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Bring in the machine that goes PING!


5 posted on 05/11/2007 6:43:54 AM PDT by BubbaBasher
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To: BubbaBasher

Very clever!


6 posted on 05/11/2007 6:50:57 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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Now that we know there’s an approximate 800 year lag between temperature increase and CO2 increase and we look at the CO2 increase that started a bit before the Industrial Revolution and continues into the present and go back 800 years from there, do we find a temperature increase back then that spans a several centuries?


7 posted on 05/11/2007 6:51:04 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

They would like all “global warming deniers” to think of whips and red-hot irons, it seems.....


8 posted on 05/11/2007 6:54:24 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Another one that frames the question beautifully. Thanks for posting!


9 posted on 05/11/2007 6:57:15 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
The lack of logic of so many of the global warming crowd is astounding. This was in the Las Vegas Review Journal today and gave me a good laugh. Take note of the last line:

To the editor:

It’s time to step up our efforts to fight global warming. Global warming is the challenge of our generation.

This Earth Day, I took two steps to reduce my carbon emissions:

— I bicycled to school, the grocery and my house of worship.

— I washed my clothes in cold water and dried them on a clothesline.

If everyone could make a personal commitment we could significantly reduce carbon emissions, a global killer. Reducing CO? pollutants requires city, state, federal, individual and corporate action.

Please don’t wait for the next ice age before we address this serious problem.

Sandra schuab

10 posted on 05/11/2007 6:59:53 AM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: jimfree

Aw shucks - thanks for reading - and the authors will appreciate the kind words.


11 posted on 05/11/2007 7:00:20 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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The global warming movement has become a secular religion which has abandoned science for an immutable dogma that global warming is totally human caused and dooms us all. That religion also has its inquisition and anyone who does not believe the dogma is a heretic. Ironically the global warming religion, like its counterpart in the Medieval Church, is now selling indulgences in the form of “carbon credits” to wash away ones global warming sins. Perhaps what is needed is some independent thinker to nail 98 theses on Al Gore’s door.


12 posted on 05/11/2007 7:11:53 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Here's a link to the "Consensus". The National Registry of Environmental Professionals GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE SURVEY
13 posted on 05/11/2007 7:12:14 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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That’s brilliant - the carbon credits as indulgences - just damn! I can’t wait to use that. Thank you!


14 posted on 05/11/2007 7:17:06 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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Teaser. Only parts 1 and 2 have been published. 3 comes out May 16. Good stuff though.


15 posted on 05/11/2007 7:17:09 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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Yeah - I didn’t scrool all the way down until AFTER I posted. You’d think typing in future dates to fill out the when published field should have tipped me off, huh?


16 posted on 05/11/2007 7:18:42 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
our realization of how far modern society has moved from medieval times.

Other than the choice of weapons, it appears to me that we are pretty much the same now as then.

17 posted on 05/11/2007 7:33:03 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Ditto; Brad Cloven; Hegewisch Dupa

Thanks for that. Very interesting.

Although it should be noted that the author cites this survey to debunk a scientific consensus. However, the survey is mostly of individuals with credentials as environmental managers and are not necessarily scientists -although they may be as well.

It is still pretty good at presenting an overview and shows that although a considerable majority tend to view climate change as an issue that needs prompt attention, it is not a figure so high as the 99% the left would have you believe.

I tend to be more convinced by the “science is not a democracy” argument.


18 posted on 05/11/2007 7:57:44 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Everyone wants a simple answer; but sometimes there isn't a simple answer)
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It is still pretty good at presenting an overview and shows that although a considerable majority tend to view climate change as an issue that needs prompt attention, it is not a figure so high as the 99% the left would have you believe.

But that brings us back to the main question. Why the urgency on the part of the left to silence debate and punish dissenters? Why are otherwise reputable scientists veering so far from the scientific process?

I can only think of one parallel in recent history --- the consensus reached on the 'science' of Eugenics in the early decades of the 20th century. We now understand not only the horrific consequences of that false consensus but the fact that it was a politically driven consensus.

19 posted on 05/11/2007 8:18:09 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

..He's a denier

20 posted on 05/11/2007 8:23:51 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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