Posted on 05/10/2007 3:10:36 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
House Rejects Nine-Month Iraq Withdrawal
(AP) WASHINGTON The Democratic-controlled House defeated legislation Thursday to require the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq within nine months, then pivoted to a fresh challenge of President Bush's handling of the unpopular war.
The vote on the nine-month withdrawal measure was 255-171.
On a day of complex maneuvering, Democrats said they would approve legislation funding the war on an installment plan and Bush said he would veto it. But the president, under pressure from lawmakers in both parties, coupled his threat with an offer to compromise on a spending bill that sets standards for the Iraqi government.
"Time's running out, because the longer we wait the more strain we're going to put on the military," said Bush, who previously had insisted on what he termed a "clean" war funding bill.
Despite Bush's ability to sustain his vetoes in the House -- as demonstrated last week -- critics of the war insisted on challenging him anew.
"This war is a terrible tragedy and it is time to bring it to an end," said Rep. James McGovern, leading advocate of the bill to establish a nine-month withdrawal timetable. "For four long, deadly years, this administration and their allies in Congress have been flat wrong about Iraq," said the Massachusetts Democrat.
Republicans argued that a withdrawal would be disastrous.
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He’s a libertarian -— lots of libertarians seem to be against the war. Not sure why.....
Ron Paul runs in the Republican Primary. He has run in the past as a libertarian, but right now, he's an (R).
Our presence in Iraq goes away and Al Qaeda doesn't.
Our gallant troops come home and so follows Al Qaeda on their heels.
Since we ousted Saddam and moved the front to the M.E. we have lived in terror free complacency.
A loss for us in Iraq as a country is a win for the dem's politically, albeit they are working for themselves and not for our country's best interests.
President Bush can’t stand alone and win.
He needs the support of us "non-politicals" who don't center our focus on political jargon and MSM promotion who have an agenda more important to them than the survival of our national sovereignty and the survival of any of us as individuals.
Scum is too good a label for the likes of these politically driven Bush bashers.
Never forget 9/11/2001.
They keep spinning our wheels as a whole.
That's what a mindset of agenda taking precedence over a mindset of conviction creates.
Ron Paul is a tool of the defeatocrats. And by extension, the jihadists.
Laughing?
He!!, they are licking their chops with anticipation!
I’ve been watching a lot of this on C-Span. Murtha’s blathering was enough to make me want to put my foot through the TV.
But some of the RINO whining about funding pork projects made me almost as angry. Bush was right about one thing—if your spending has merit, SUBMIT IT AS IT’S OWN SEPERATE SPENDING BILL!!!
I look at his foreign policy, and I’ll call him lots worse than RINO.
Thanks for the research.
SSDD...
“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam
Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading
an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly
grievous threat because he is so consistently prone
to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating
America’s response to his continued deceit and his
consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction...
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real.”
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam
Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear
weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within
the next five years ... We also should remember we
have always underestimated the progress Saddam has
made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction
has proven impossible to deter and we should assume
that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam
Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass
destruction.”
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in
October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam
Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked
on a crash course to build up his chemical and
biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear
weapons...”
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
“He has systematically violated, over the
course of the past 11 years, every significant UN
resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any
nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do.”
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
Sometimes I wonder who controls who. Is it the democrat party that controls the liberal media or is it the liberal media that controls the democrat party?!
You got that right. I had to read the line about three times to realize how the MSM spun the story to make it sound like the dems helped defeat the bill. Shameless.
It almost comes across as the libs getting confused on how to present this news.
Im ashamed Ron Paul is from Texas.
Here is some defeatist, blame America BS from Ron Pauls campaign site:
“War and Foreign Policy
The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. (Bush Lied) The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. (We havent made progress) We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. (Terror is our fault) This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, (Remember 9-11)thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. We must have new “leadership” in the White House to ensure this never happens again.
Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. (they are defending the USA’s interest abroad also) And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women. (huh?)
We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home.(Bug out like we did to the kurds in GW 1?) No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution. (blah blah blah)
Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations. (We didnt go to war because of the UN)
Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised.
(He hate me) Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihads themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.
(Sept 11th was our fault)
At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves. (pick a position) The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe. Many have thanked God for it, in many languages. (Then why are you running it down?) Let us have a strong America,(By accepting defeat?) conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.”
This RINO will never get my vote.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/issue-War_fx.html
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