As parents choose private school, homeschool, or government institutionalization for their child, many factors will help them decide. Fatness is merely one among many.
Why the change in wording? You have generally lumped private schools in with your ridiculous "institutionalized" claim of unnatural environments.
What possible influence could little ole’ me have?
Believe me, you have none, in anyway about homeschooling either. Your "scribblings" could actually be detrimental to the homeschooling movement. Someone with less knowlege of true homeschoolers would run in the opposite direction you allegedly are supporting, and thus my contention that is your goal.
Homeschoolers are fit and slim. Those riding the government school buses are more likely to have weight problems.
That claim of yours has already been debunked by myself and others. BTW, the majority of private schools in this region (not my community, as there are none, but a multi-county, multi-state region) all use the same "prison busses" as are used by public schools - the only difference is the name of the school painted on the side for identification. I personally know school bus drivers that refuse to drive for some of the private schools because of the discipline issues with those kids, mostly kids expelled from the evil public schools.
some parents just might choose the natural environment of the home, because their child is more likely to have a healthy weight.
Pure conjecture and opinion on your part.
Your horror stories of school buses have nothing to do with the decision many of us have made about not using the school transportation system. Time was the primary issue. By the time the bus they would have been riding passes my house, my daughter and her friends that come here most afternoons are already outside playing after having already finished homework (with me supervising.) They are here not because of parents' working, but because I have the largest property for them to play, which includes not only standard backyard play equipment, but a creek, room for batting or soccer play/practice, a putting green, and a 10,000+ square foot vegetable garden where they have their own section and are responsible for tending it.
Now what was you were saying about"institutionalized" kids and the parents that send them to those schools?
I'll check back in after I finish putting in 1,000 row feet of beans and corn, just to see if you are finally willing to directly address any of the factual comments that have been addressed to you, or if you will just, in typical fashion, remain on your high-horse of superiority.
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Homeschooling is superior. It doesn’t need to ride a “high horse”. Parents all over the nation, are choosing homeschooling for that reason.
Now that I have pointed out, my observation about the healthy fitness and weight of homeschoolers, perhaps others will take note as well.
By the way, I must leave the computer too. I will address each of your points when I get back tonight or possibly tomorrow.
Something you may not know about Virginia and private schools - teachers do not have to be certified by the state to teach at a private school, nor do the private schools do SOL's. In fact, there are some schools that use "supervisory" teachers who are in charge of 4-6 other adults that direct the classroom education. The people actually delivering instruction are not required to have a college degree. One private school in my area proudly uses the ABeka curriculum. The kids sit in cubicles all day and do worksheet after worksheet for 6-7 hours a day, with a 'para-educator' passing out the sheets and walking up and down the aisles. That is one of the schools where the public school drop outs end up. Sounds great huh?
I want to move in with you. ;-)
You are right the wording is inconsistent, and I haven't decided how to handle the differences between choosing to send, or being forced by the government to send a child to government institutional confinement in their so-called "schools".
Private schooling differs from government schooling in that the parents are not threatened by police action if their child enrolls, so children are in private school because the parents feel that it is a better environment for the child, and have paid a ransom ( private tuition). That ransom insures that their family will not face the horror of prison, bankrupting legal fees, or foster care.
But,,,you are completely right. Private schooling is a form of institutionalization but more likely conforms to the values of the parents.
Believe me, you have none, in anyway about homeschooling either.
Pure speculation on your part. It is impossible for you to know what other people ( other than yourself) are thinking, unless they tell you. Even then you still can't know.
Your “scribblings” could actually be detrimental to the homeschooling movement. Someone with less knowlege of true homeschoolers would run in the opposite direction you allegedly are supporting, and thus my contention that is your goal.
I have been using the word "institutionalized" for some months now. Recently, this phrase has turned up in the editorials of writers who have wide readership. Not so long ago the phrase "educational-industrial-complex" was used by a Wall Street Journal editorialist. Also, the idea that government schools are not religiously neutral, and can **not** avoid trampling First Amendment Rights is being seen in the media.
As far as I know I was the first to use these terms and concepts, but **of course** it is impossible for me to know that. Whether or not these writers invented these terms independently, or if they have been picked up by others from me, I have no idea. But,,,,FR is a powerful message board and ideas generated here do find there way into the culture. Just ask Dan Rather.
That claim of yours has already been debunked by myself and others.
It has not been "debunked" by anyone on this board. Do you know of any reputable studies comparing the weight of homeschoolers and institutionalized children.
I have been very plain in these many posts that I **personally** have never met a fat homeschooler who has been exclusively homeschooled. I fully admit that this is an anecdotal observation. It is also anecdotal of mine that there are plenty of fat institutionalized children riding school buses.
Oh...and so I won't be punched in the nose by a strawman, not **every** post has stated that it is my **person** opinion that homeschoolers are not likely to be fat, BUT, any thoughtful reader will plainly know that it is my **personal** and anecdotal observation. Any thoughtful reader will understand that I am **not** presenting this anecdotal observation as if it were scientific fact.
Perhaps all of this warm discussion, will encourage someone with skill and curiosity to look into it.
In the meantime, parents must make decisions about education and their child's healthy weight based on imperfect and anecdotal information. Perhaps they do will notice, as I have, that homeschoolers tend to be fit and institutionalized children seem more likely to be fat.
BTW, the majority of private schools in this region (not my community, as there are none, but a multi-county, multi-state region) all use the same “prison busses” as are used by public schools the only difference is the name of the school painted on the side for identification. I personally know school bus drivers that refuse to drive for some of the private schools because of the discipline issues with those kids, mostly kids expelled from the evil public schools.
I agree. Point addressed previously.
Pure conjecture and opinion on your part.
I have been plain in previous posts that this is a personal observation and entirely anecdotal.
Your horror stories of school buses have nothing to do with the decision many of us have made about not using the school transportation system. Time was the primary issue. By the time the bus they would have been riding passes my house, my daughter and her friends that come here most afternoons are already outside playing after having already finished homework (with me supervising.) They are here not because of parents’ working, but because I have the largest property for them to play, which includes not only standard backyard play equipment, but a creek, room for batting or soccer play/practice, a putting green, and a 10,000+ square foot vegetable garden where they have their own section and are responsible for tending it.
I am glad your child is not riding the bus. Regardless of your reasons, she is will not get her clothing caught in the school bus doors and be dragged to death. Her bus driver will not run her over if she stoops to pick up something she has dropped. She will not have missing teeth and other facial injuries if the driver stops the bus suddenly. She will not be bullies, injured, or raped by the other students.
Now what was you were saying about”institutionalized” kids and the parents that send them to those schools?
I’ll check back in after I finish putting in 1,000 row feet of beans and corn, just to see if you are finally willing to directly address any of the factual comments that have been addressed to you, or if you will just, in typical fashion, remain on your high-horse of superiority.
Well,,,It is my personal opinion that homeschooling is superior. It is a shame that many children are not in ideal homes and must be institutionalized.
That you have planted vegetables is irrelevant, and will not influence others in their decision to homeschool or institutionalize their children.