Giuliani Plans to Publicly Embrace Abortion Rights [Rudy declares war on conservatism]

New York Times ^ | May 10, 2007 | By ADAM NAGOURNEY and MARC SANTORA

[airborne]

Pennsylvania? This is pro-life country here.

I'm here in PA Dutch country.

We have Specter, Casey and Rendell representing us.

Plus the unions have thousands of dead voters ready to vote for Dems.

What say you now?

[Mr. Brightside]

Nixon said that the way to win elections was to run Right in the primary then run to the center.

Rudy didn’t even give a good fake to the right.

Those who think that Giuliani will appoint “strict constructionists” to the Supreme Court are deluding themselves.

[airborne]

Pennsylvania? This is pro-life country here.

I'm here in PA Dutch country.

We have Specter, Casey and Rendell representing us.

Plus the unions have thousands of dead voters ready to vote for Dems.

What say you now?

[adiaireton8]

He had nothing to lose because pro-lifers weren't fooled.

-A8

[do the dhue]

If Republicans elect Rudy, who will be left to protect the unborn baby?

Republicans have plenty of candidates who will be stronger then any Demorat in regards to the WOT (War On Terror).

This Primary and General should be about who will protect God, guns, and babies the best (and of course Security). Are we going to leave it up to RINOs and Rats? Not me.

If I had to vote today, my vote is with Duncan Hunter. Hunter has a A+ NRA rating, he stands strong for life, he has fought to keep God in public view, Hunter stands for securing our border. And a couple more things: Hunter served in one of the most dangerous outfits in Vietnam, the 75th Rangers. Plus his son is in Iraq for a third time.

And last night on Hannity and Commie, I saw Ann Coulter endorse Duncan Hunter. Every time I hear her talk, I want her to carry my children. :-)

So, I say we don't need a liberal to beat another liberal in the General. The media would have us believe that. I haven't believed a word the media has said since the 80's. I aint gunna start believing' them now.

And I am definitely not going to allow the media to dictate how I should vote.

[upsdriver]

“Rises from the ashes of 9/11, then sinks into a swamp of the unborn’s blood...”

I am always ready to remind people that just as many Americans were killed on 9/11 in abortion clinics as were killed by the terrorist attacks. And every other day for over 30yrs. Just to put things in the proper perspective.

[Obadiah]

Regrettably, you are correct. That is always the issue, it’s just that it now has to be dealt with in our own house. That it has come to this is what is both tragic and disturbing.

[B4Ranch]

Now the question is, are the Republican Party leaders going to support him?

[upsdriver]

Mr. Thompson stay away! Duncan Hunter all the way!!:)

[MplsSteve]

Nice try.

Actually, I like what he did in straightening out New York and what he’ll likely do in the War On Terror.

But as I said, I’m still uncommitted at this point. If Fred Thompson announces, I’d likely back him.

[ellery]

Many libertarians don’t like him either, because of his hostility to private property, presumption of innocence, trial by jury, personal liberty and the Constitution. There goes another, say, 10%. So who is going to make up for that 20% loss of traditional GOP constituents? It’s not going to be the Reagan democrats, who only defect to pro-life pubbies. It’s not going to be left-leaning independents who oppose the war.

[dirtboy]

We have Specter, Casey and Rendell representing us.

Casey is pro-life. That's how he beat Santorum.

Rendell won because the GOP has run two straight clones against him. The prior Dem, Bob Casey Sr., was the last great pro-life Dem.

Specter is a freak of nature that defies any logical explanation other than name recognition. And even then, he almost lost in the GOP primary to a conservative.

[darkangel82]

Casey only claimed to be pro-life. Like a true Dem, his real beliefs came out once he got into office.

[airborne]

Thanks for talking me down from the ledge.

;^)

[ellery]

Bad tactical move.

He has no choice. Those who oppose abortion didn't believe his ridiculous waffling, and he's losing those who don't care about abortion because he looks like such a wimp with all the lame excuses. If this report is true, it appears to be almost a hail-Mary pass.

[conservative in nyc]

Pennsylvania? This is pro-life country here.

Even in the Philadelphia suburbs, where any statewide election is won or lost? Where there are a lot of Italian-American voters?

Only a fraction of pro-life voters absolutely refuse to vote for a candidate based on his or her abortion stand when it comes down to choosing between 2 mainstream pro-choice candidates or voting third party.

I'm not saying Giuliani or a pro-choice Republican candidate would win. But I wouldn't rule it out as quickly as most FReepers. Most of the rest of the country simply doesn't think like us.

[upsdriver]

I hope so!

[festus]

Is Rudy hoping to run on the Democratic ticket?

With McCain as his running mate.

Though with Romney's views it might be ok to have two running mates and the fabulous three can run together.

[do the dhue]

One day, Rudy will say:

Conservatives, please forgive me.

[labette]

"Those who think that Giuliani will appoint “strict constructionists” to the Supreme Court are deluding themselves."

Naw, they were making a bid to delude US....But still a good point.