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Giuliani Plans to Publicly Embrace Abortion Rights [Rudy declares war on conservatism]
New York Times ^ | May 10, 2007 | By ADAM NAGOURNEY and MARC SANTORA

Posted on 05/09/2007 7:17:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“This is a “last gasp” for rOOOTY,,,He will have gone ,,,”

He won’t recover from it, that’s something I feel sure about. You know this is a marathon of sorts as well. I don’t mind him finishing his current lap so we don’t have the sprinters worn down by the media meat grinder. Timing is an issue for sure, things are earlier, but also more staggered with the primaries shifting.

And good evening!


221 posted on 05/09/2007 9:41:23 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: elfman2
It is a big issue to me. Someone has to fight to allow the unborn baby to breathe air, smell a flower, see a butterfly, skin their knee, and learn that liberals are commies.

Since it is no big deal to you, maybe you wouldn't mind siding up with the unborn anyway. They can use your help. Bill Clinton was a no name before he became President. Duncan Hunter is a no name now. Hunter may not have a name, but he does have a great record. A record that says he stands for life. If you don't think he won't be strong on security and the WOT, please allow me:

There is no person running that deserves to be our President more then Duncan Hunter:

'Duncan served his country in the Army and is a Vietnam vet. In Vietnam, he served in one of the most dangerous outfits - the 173rd Airborne Brigade and the 75th Army Rangers.' http://www.gohunter08.com/

Also, he voted for the war in Iraq and his son is on his third tour of duty in Iraq. May God Bless him and all our Troops. Give me a candidate who believed in the war so much that he voted knowing his son could go there. Hunterd has not wavered, tired, faltered, or failed our Troops either. Also, Hunter was a Ranger right? Hunter knows that failure is not an option.

Hunter also has a A+ rating from the NRA and has fought to keep God in public view. Hunter also slowed the flood of illegal immigrants to a trickle in the Sand Diego area. He had a wall put up and it is working too.

Duncan Hunter is a good man. I ask you to consider him. Your help would be appreciated by the unborn, gun lovers, God lovers, and Troop lovers too.

222 posted on 05/09/2007 9:47:04 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: dirtboy

Maybe he will end up Hillary’s running mate.


223 posted on 05/09/2007 9:50:01 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Reagan Man; conservative in nyc
"That is ridiculous! I've lived in the west for the last 31 years. You act as though the Republican Party is filled with libertarians. Its not. Within the GOP, libertarians are a blip on the political radar screen."

You are right, RM.

I've lived in OR for the last 15 years.
We've had Libertarians running against the Republicans.

Btw, I see your still making THE case for Rooty`s candidacy.

I see that as well.

BTW, I am a Southern Republican, having been born and raised there, and my family is still there.
However, I do have a bit of insight into western politics, as well.

224 posted on 05/09/2007 9:56:18 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Spiff
I am not OK with it.

Kalifornia is leading the country, and in the wrong direction.

I haven't heard, but I don't think my God is going to be happy with the killin of all those babies. I am told that He knew me when I was in the womb. Why wouldn't He know those who are murdered in the womb too?

Give life a chance.

225 posted on 05/09/2007 9:56:26 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: Prokopton
I'd vote for someone like Zell Miller over Rudy in a heartbeat.

hear hear

226 posted on 05/09/2007 9:58:43 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: conservative in nyc

I watch the polls because it’s fun, but I don’t put much stock in them at this point. I’m skeptical, to say the least, about Giuliani’s chances in the general because of the fundamentals. I think it’s nearly a certainty that should Giuliani win the nomination, a third party will drain off his support on the right.

I suppose it’s possible that Gore could jump in as a Green, we could have duelling third parties on the left and right, and the pub and dem candidates could battle it out for 31% of the vote to win. But that seems to me like a real long shot. I think our chances are infinitely better with a candidate who can win all sections of the GOP — social conservatives, libertarians and national security folks. I think Thompson could do it, and Romney might too.

Who knows, though — my magic eight-ball isn’t very reliable. I guess time will tell.


227 posted on 05/09/2007 9:59:00 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: arasina

Maybe he will run on the democratic ticket.

Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: “I would like to run on the Democratic line “
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1793570/posts

Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEle

Transcript of video below.

Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?

Culture of life:

ABC clip:

George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”

Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”

Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:

Announcer: “Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.”

Rudy Giuliani : “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”

Immigration

CNN clip:

Announcer: “Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.”

Rudy Giuliani: “There isn’t a mayor or a public official in this country that’s more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago.”

Gun control:

CNN clip

Rudy Giuliani: “I’m in favor of gun control”

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: “How about registration of all handguns?”

Rudy Giuliani: “You know I’m in favor of that. I’ve been on your show many times.”

Gay Rights:

CNN Clip:

Announcer: “As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples.”

ABC Clip: “I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it”

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: “So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?”

Rudy Giuliani: “I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone’s sexual orientation.”

First Amendment:

ABC Clip

Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”

Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”

Party Loyalty:

ABC Clip:

Rudy Giuliani: “Frankly George, I’d like to run on all the lines. I’d like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I’d like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”

Conservative Values:

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: “Whether it’s gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues.”

Rudy Giuliani: “Well then maybe the other side should stop the ‘He’s part of the vast right wing conspiracy’.”

Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!

End clip.


228 posted on 05/09/2007 9:59:50 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Jim Robinson
What about all those “strict constructionist” judges old Rudy was going to appoint. Is he going to tell us the truth about that too while he’s at it?
229 posted on 05/09/2007 10:06:28 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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To: Jim Robinson
“Ultimately, there has to be a right to cho[o]se,” he said.

Complete the sentence, Mr. G. Choose what?

230 posted on 05/09/2007 10:07:15 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, y'all.)
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To: do the dhue

Where can I buy one of those T shirts?


231 posted on 05/09/2007 10:08:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: monkapotamus

Needs a little more cowbell and a bug zapper. Other than that, I’m LOL!


232 posted on 05/09/2007 10:11:14 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo

http://www.arizonacap.com/gifts/patriot.htm


233 posted on 05/09/2007 10:12:05 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: Kevmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM

Great video!!!


234 posted on 05/09/2007 10:15:07 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: Jim Robinson

not a chance...Rudy’d ship is sunk. It would be great if he were to have a sudden realization that the darkside has influenced his mind to accept legal abortion and announce that he has come to his senses.


235 posted on 05/09/2007 10:15:19 PM PDT by fabian
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To: Jim Robinson

We are now officially at war for the soul of the party. The whole thing boils down to the age old battle: good vs evil. ~JimRob, May 9, 2007
***Bump for later reference so I don’t have to hunt for it. It’s my favorite so far in my shopping around for a new tag line.


236 posted on 05/09/2007 10:17:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Spiff

My, you must have gotten up on the wrong side of the landfill pallet today! Sheesh.


237 posted on 05/09/2007 10:17:13 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Jim Robinson
For any who missed this extraordinary graphic posted on the Mystery Rock thread by monkapotamus (he also has the best FReeper profile page I've ever seen -- check it out).


238 posted on 05/09/2007 10:19:44 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

239 posted on 05/09/2007 10:22:50 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: do the dhue

Very cool, thanks.

Note to self, buy pro-life American Holocaust shirt here.

http://www.arizonacap.com/gifts/patriot.htm


240 posted on 05/09/2007 10:23:55 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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