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Civilization Watch - Don't You Dare Ask for Proof - Orson Scott Card
The Ornery American ^ | April 29, 2007 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 05/09/2007 3:29:10 AM PDT by Mr170IQ

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Civilization Watch
First appeared in print in The Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC

By Orson Scott Card

April 29, 2007

Don't You Dare Ask for Proof!

In last Sunday's News and Record, columnist Andrew Brod heaped ridicule on those who dare to contest the religion of global warming. What is his proof?

He doesn't think he needs any. In fact, he's against proof. He likes it when governments make massive changes without any evidence that those changes are necessary.

He spends his whole column citing political documents like the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- which is known to have doctored its reports to conform with ideology, deliberately ignoring the statements of its own scientists that weren't in line with the desire warnings.

He mentions "migrating maple trees" and "stranded polar bears," though completely outside the scientific context that these things happen regardless of whether humans have anything to do with climate change -- they are irrelevant to that question.

He thinks that the news that only 19 percent of Americans believe that humans bear no responsibility for climate change is somehow proof of his claims, while the fact that the number of Republicans in Congress who share that view is increasing is merely proof that Republicans are idiots.

Let's think about that: Brod thinks that ordinary citizens, who only know what they're told by the media, can be trusted to know what they're talking about. While Republican congresspeople, who have access to the reports of all the scientific experts, with large staffs that can research these matters for them, are obviously wrong.

Brod mentions in passing that "The news media pay less attention to global-warming skeptics than before." Yet he seems not to make the logical inference that maybe this is why only 19 percent of Americans believe that humans have no particular influence on global climate -- they haven't been told about the evidence.

Maybe if the media were reporting accurately on the state of the pertinent scientific research, those poll numbers would change.

Brod is one of those who claim that whether global climate change is really caused by human activities, and whether or not it's really harmful, we ought to make massive changes in our public policies in order to try to prevent it.

I notice he doesn't mention the consensus, even among true believers in anthropogenic climate change, that none of the proposals for preventing global warming are likely to accomplish anything in any reasonable amount of time.

Instead, he says, "According to a recent study by the British government, which recommended an array of taxes and emission controls, the costs may be moderate, on the order of 1 percent of global income per year."

He then makes the statistically idiotic extrapolation that this exact percentage would apply to American households -- only a few hundred bucks a year.

But "global income" costs would not be evenly divided because the changes would only take place in high-energy-use countries. So Americans would bear a far higher percentage of the costs. In the thousands, not the hundreds, of dollars per household.

Brod is deliberately misleading you when he tells you those statistics mean it would only cost Americans a few hundred dollars per household, and he knows it.

How many thousands do you want to spend this year on preventing global warming? And after you find out that there's no proof that humans even cause it, or that it's even a bad thing, how many thousands do you want to spend "just in case"?

Two thousand? Surely you can afford two thousand. What about five thousand?

You're not writing your check. I guess you're not such a true believer after all.

Brod also ignores the fact that the British government report was issued in support of policy changes that are, by any rational standard, pathetic. The changes they are making are ludicrously inadequate to change the levels of greenhouse gases to any significant degree. Given that the results will be near zero, any costs, however divided, might seem exorbitant.

Brod likens this to insurance, but it is not. Insurance is designed to pay you money after a loss. It does not prevent a loss. The valid comparison is to

protection money: Somebody comes to you and demands you pay money "or you might have a fire." You pay the money so that they won't burn you out of business.

That's what the global-warming protection racket is about: Hey, we can't prove anything is actually happening, but look how many people we've got to agree with us! You'd better make a whole bunch of sacrifices which, by coincidence, exactly coincide with the political agenda of the anti-Western anti-industrial religion of ecodeism -- or global warming will get you!

Brod actually admits precisely what he's doing, when he says: "Fortunately, people finally seem to understand the fallacy of requiring proof."

Think about that. He calls it a fallacy to require proof.

Science is worthless without good, solid, reliable evidence. It isn't even science.

And as you look through Brod's entire essay, he offers not one shred of proof about anything. He only offers politics as usual -- my team has more votes!

But his team has no facts. If his team had facts, he would use them. They don't, so he can't.

I wonder if Brod, in his job as director of the University of North Carolina at Greensboro's Office of Business and Economic Research, he has that same attitude toward proof -- that it's a fallacy to require it.

If so, what value does his "business and economic research" have? Why would anyone who thinks that requiring proof is a fallacy be hired to do his job? Of course he can't say with certainty what will happen, but my bet is that he makes darn sure he provides plenty of proof that his projections of the future are based on solid evidence about the past.

That is precisely what is missing in the claims about global warming.

But Brod thinks it's a good thing that the media aren't telling you about global-warming skeptics.

How far does this go? What else does he think the media shouldn't be telling us about?

I think back to another time when the media -- this time in England -- were committed to concealing facts from their readers and listeners. It was back in 1937, 1938, and 1939.

When Chamberlain and the appeasers in the British government were selling out Austria and then Czechoslovakia, most newspapers declined to tell their readers about the Jews who were murdered in Austria after the Nazis took over; they didn't bother to tell them anything that might cause them to doubt Neville Chamberlain's program of appeasing the dictators.

The media also didn't think it was worth reporting how badly armed the British military was, or how heavily the Germans were rearming. After all, that might promote "alarmism" or pro-war fervor, and "everybody" knew that Chamberlain's appeasement program was going to bring peace.

The poll statistics were just as good as the ones Brod is citing. Huge majorities of the public "believed" in appeasement just as huge majorities believe (to some degree) in anthropogenic global warming. But what they believed and what was true were, just like today, very far apart -- precisely because the media concealed the truth.

As a result, when Chamberlain came back from Munich brandishing "peace in our time," the British public loved him.

Seven years later, with six million Jews and six million other death- and slave-camp victims gone and eastern Europe doomed to be enslaved by Communist governments imposed by the conquering Russians, not to mention many cities in England in ruins and many thousands of soldiers and civilians dead, it would have been hard to find anybody who appreciated the British media's having kept the truth from them about those lonely "appeasement skeptics."

Isn't it funny how the public has a "right to know" -- except when the media decides not to tell them?

So you don't hear much about science that gets politically incorrect results. You don't hear much about global warming skeptics -- or the fact that within the scientific disciplines actually involved in long-term global climate research there is a broad consensus growing -- against significant human causes of global warming.

But Brod approves of the public being deliberately misinformed. He doesn't want us to look for proof. He wants us to simply do what we're told and think as we're told. He says "at least the debate is moving in the right direction" precisely because he thinks there is no debate at all! That's the right direction!

"Instead of pointless arguments about whether we have proof of global warming, we've started arguing about the costs and benefits of particular policies." But this is also false, and he knows it.

He does not want to discuss the costs -- he merely dismisses them or denies them or misuses shaky statistics to trivialize them. He does not want to discuss the benefits, because there are almost none and he doesn't want us to know that.

He concludes with this outrageous statement: "I concluded my 1995 column by saying that it wasn't to late to 'buy insurance' against the future costs of global warming. It's still not too late. But it will be soon."

Think about those claims: "It's still not too late" and "It will be soon." You will search his essay in vain for the slightest shred of evidence that it is not too late or that it will be soon.

In the real world, where people still like to have proof before they make drastic policy changes, the experts who believe in anthropogenic global warming generally agree that none of the proposed "solutions" will make any difference.

Meanwhile, the interesting science -- i.e., the science that actually works as an explanation -- is overwhelmingly heliogenic: The sun is directly and solely responsible for the overall patterns of warming and cooling that have dominated Earth, during and between ice ages, for millions of years.

No wonder Brod doesn't want us "requiring proof." He wants you barefoot and ignorant, folks. So does the rest of his team.

Me, I prefer to listen to people who insist on proof, who are eager to show me their proof, and eager to have me examine and question their proofs. That's how the global warming skeptics act. That's also how real scientists act.

Brod is crying wolf. He knows it, he admits it, yet he still expects us to believe him and run off in pursuit of the imaginary danger.

Meanwhile, there really are human-caused problems that must be dealt with, and very soon, too. Global warming isn't one of them, but our oil supply definitely is. I'll be back to that topic next week.

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-04-29-1.html


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Good stuff as usual from OSC
1 posted on 05/09/2007 3:29:13 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: Nailbiter

later read


2 posted on 05/09/2007 3:36:07 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Mr170IQ


3 posted on 05/09/2007 3:37:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Mr170IQ

bump for later


4 posted on 05/09/2007 3:41:46 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: Mr170IQ
I notice he doesn't mention the consensus, even among true believers in anthropogenic climate change, that none of the proposals for preventing global warming are likely to accomplish anything in any reasonable amount of time.

Flooding the Qatarra Depression would contain about 88% of the excess ice melt from Greenland and be far less expensive than the wealth transfer schemes being proposed by the Globalists.

Yet none are advocating it. Why?

Because it doesn't give them political control of the levers of power.

5 posted on 05/09/2007 3:42:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Tolik

Ping.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 3:48:33 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: Mr170IQ

I thoroughly enjoyed the GW part of the article, however IMHO OSC blows up when I read this:

Meanwhile, there really are human-caused problems that must be dealt with, and very soon, too. Global warming isn’t one of them, but our oil supply definitely is. I’ll be back to that topic next week.

I’m willing to wait a week to see the “proof”, and I’m hoping he goes much deeper than I’m thinking at the moment.


7 posted on 05/09/2007 4:00:54 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Vigilanteman

you realize that water vapor is by far the most responsible for the greenhouse effect right?


8 posted on 05/09/2007 4:02:03 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: Mr170IQ

Bump.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 4:09:07 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Mr170IQ; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
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GREENIE WATCH


Indeed it is.
10 posted on 05/09/2007 4:22:20 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Mr170IQ

“Ecology,” “Environmentalism,” Global Warming,” is where the Communists went when it became unfashionable to be “Communists.” It is all the same people, the same religion.


11 posted on 05/09/2007 4:25:57 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Mr170IQ

Here is what these people are really saying: we don’t have the guts to deal with the real evils of the world, so lets have make believe enemies that we can stick are head in the sand with. I got news for your Bucko, the Jihadist don’t care how much CO2 escapes from your head, when they cut it off. Wake up, and get your head out of the global warming clouds!


12 posted on 05/09/2007 4:27:20 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Mr170IQ
Brod is crying wolf.

The MSM has been crying wolf for decades.

Don't trust main stream media. Their scare tactics have flip-flopped four times over the last eighty-some years.

 

 

The following graphs show that Earth is in a brief period of global warming called an interglacial. The longer time spans, the deep troughs are glacial periods. The line that runs across the graphs is the temperature in 1950 and listed as "0" on the left axis.

As can be seen in Figure 1-5, Earth appears ready to move toward another ice age in the cycle.

I'm more concerned with sustaining global warming to offset global cooling and the next ice age. 

Ice Ages & Astronomical Causes
Brief Introduction to the History of Climate
by Richard A. Muller

Origin of the 100 kyr Glacial Cycle

This first graph looks bad, doesn't it -- steeper upward temperature trend. Horizontal red line is temperature at 1950.

Figure 1-1 Global warming

The second graph shows today's temperature isn't out of the norm. Horizontal blue line is temperature at 1950.

Figure 1-2 Climate of the last 2400 years

The next graph shows a downtrend in temperatures from 8,000 years ago to today. The down trend is steeper in the recent 2,000 years. From left to right the upper spikes have lower highs while the lower spikes have lower lows. (The same effect can be seen in Figure 1-2, above.) 

Figure 1-3 Climate of the last 12,000 years

This graph shows that agriculture and  stationary societies emerged 8,000 years ago during a time frame when global temperature was much higher than normal, or average.

Figure 1-4 Climate of the last 100,000 years

The next graph shows that the recent 8,000 years was one of five brief hot spikes when glaciers were at minimums. With much longer troughs when glacials (ice ages) were the norm most of the time.

Figure 1-5 Climate for the last 420 kyr, from Vostok ice

The graph below is reversed. That is, the left side is present day and the right side is 3 million years ago. It shows a 3 million year down trend toward widening extremes in the temperature cycle.

Figure 1-6 Climate for the last 3 million years

The final graph shows CO2 lagging temperature change -- not leading it.

Figure 1-7 CO2 and temperature for the last 450 kyr

When man can cause meaningful global warming yesterday would be a good time to begin thwarting the next ice age.

Great documentary: The Great Global Warming Swindle at Google.
  The Great Global Warming Swindle at You Tube.

If the above links don't work use the respective search function at each Website. Type: The Great Global Warming Swindle.

13 posted on 05/09/2007 4:41:57 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Mr170IQ

I have never heard from the MSM about the little ice age that was going on until about 1850. Seems to me that: 1)accurate temperature measurements probably date to the past 100-150 years and 2)as we move farther away from an ice age (albeit a small one) of course our temperatures are going to go up.

There was also a Medieval Warm period dating from around 800AD-1300AD where it was actually warm enough in England for them to plant grapes and for the Vikings to navigate to Greenland in ice free seas.

The climate cycles, and anyone who thinks we can impact that is a fricking idiot.


14 posted on 05/09/2007 4:48:21 AM PDT by LexRex in TN
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To: Mr170IQ; Lando Lincoln; danneskjold; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; A Longer Name; A message; Aggie Mama; ..
Orson Scott Card

Orson Scott Card - PING  [please freepmail me if you want or don't want to be pinged to Orson Scott Card political articles]

Links: his articles discussed at FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-orsonscottcard/browse  and archived here (it is a must go place for all new to OSC political writing): http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/index.html

His fresh articles appear in the Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC: http://www.rhinotimes.com/greensboro/  (before being posted permanently on his The Ornery American website). Read his books/movies/and everything reviews: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/ 

His "About" page: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/about.shtml


15 posted on 05/09/2007 5:17:15 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Mr170IQ

Latest Weather Channel Headline:
ANDREW BROD NOW BRAIN-DEAD FROM GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE!
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16 posted on 05/09/2007 5:17:28 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: Mr170IQ
If human activity is warming the earth, what or who is warming Mars, Venus and the moon? We have reliable base ine information for all three dating back to the '50's and all three are warming. It can't be that our SUV's are warming the entire inner solar system.

Hummers maybe but...

17 posted on 05/09/2007 5:24:25 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Zon
Old YouTube link no longer works due to copyright:

New YouTube link (plays all 9 parts in succession) until it gets removed again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXc9H5JSyow&feature=PlayList&p=30DB26909F0D7C29&index=0&playnext=1

The DVD will become available soon. You can purchase it here:

http://www.wagtv.com/acatalog/store.asp

18 posted on 05/09/2007 5:25:42 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: RedRover

Thank you for the ping!


19 posted on 05/09/2007 5:26:36 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Mr170IQ

I’ll vote for any Republican Presidential candidate who will PROMISE Card a Cabinet seat, and convince him to take it. Yes, even Rudy.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 5:27:21 AM PDT by nina0113
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