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Tapes Capture Bold Claims of Bronx Man in Terror Plot
NY Times ^ | May 8, 2007 | ALAN FEUER

Posted on 05/09/2007 1:02:27 AM PDT by neverdem

“You really want to learn how to rip somebody’s throat out?” Tarik Shah asked the man he thought was a terrorist. It was March 2004, and Mr. Shah did not know that the man was recording...

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They begin in fall 2003 as Saeed and Mr. Shah get to know each other over music and musings on Islam in which Mr. Shah starts to display an animosity toward the West. He speaks bitterly of paying “taxes to infidels.” He says the United States destroyed the “only Islamic government of Afghanistan.” He claims that Westerners “have been killing Muslims on a consistent basis for almost 200 years.”

“They have been at war with us,” he says, “which means we are at war with them.”

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Finally, on May 19, 2005, Dr. Sabir flies in from Fort Lauderdale and meets Mr. Shah at Mr. Shah’s mother’s apartment on Grant Avenue, in the Bronx. The very next day, the agent comes to visit and promptly tells Dr. Sabir that Al Qaeda is badly hurting for medical personnel and that “Sheik Osama considers doctors our No. 1 resources.”

The agent is himself flying out that afternoon and before he leaves asks Mr. Shah and the doctor if they are willing to swear an oath of loyalty to Al Qaeda. The men agree to do so, and are picked up on the agent’s microphone repeating these words in Arabic:

“God’s pledge is upon me and so is his covenant to commit myself to the orders of the guardians of the agreement, for the misfortune and for the prosperity. And to be a loyalist to the path of jihad, and to my brothers, until God’s word is exalted. And to be protective of the secrecy of the oath and to the directives of Al Qaeda.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bronx; martialarts

1 posted on 05/09/2007 1:02:31 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

This sounds like a pretty flimsy case. The feds are going to take a lot of heat over this one and lose a lot of goodwill too, once this guy becomes the NYCLU’s media darling.


2 posted on 05/09/2007 2:08:12 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Would you use like to be the defense lawyer for the terrorists? Or are you just sympathetic?


3 posted on 05/09/2007 3:37:38 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

When did you stop beating your wife, you troll?


4 posted on 05/09/2007 3:45:39 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
This sounds like a pretty flimsy case. The feds are going to take a lot of heat over this one and lose a lot of goodwill too, once this guy becomes the NYCLU’s media darling.

With the oath to Al Qaeda, what are you smoking?

5 posted on 05/09/2007 4:04:58 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

The “oath”? What oath? The one told to him by an undercover agent? Looks like the case officer wanted to close down a dead end case, but also wanted to have an arrestable offense so he could justify the undercover operative, so he made up this mumbo-jumbo for the undercover agent to spew.

Yes, it’s possible a jury will convict on it, but it’s no sure thing, it’s not even a good chance if the jury is seated in NY.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 4:13:41 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
Want to know about the Muslim Jihad in the U.S.? Listen to an expert, a former terrorist who trained in the basement of a UCLA teaching building...in the 70’s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8MEn8W8h1U

For more information, there is an interview with Mr. Shoebat and two other former terrorists, one who was born and raised in Dearborn, MI. If we don’t listen to people like this, how will we ever be able to defend ourselves here on our own soil? I believe with all my heart that this is exactly what the Muslim Jihad is planning.

7 posted on 05/09/2007 5:13:31 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Yes, it’s possible a jury will convict on it, but it’s no sure thing, it’s not even a good chance if the jury is seated in NY.

Maybe in this case in NY, but I don't see much hope for the last 6 Muslims hoping for eternity after NJ.

8 posted on 05/09/2007 5:15:58 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
"This sounds like a pretty flimsy case."

It's the NYT. Do you really believe this is all there is?

9 posted on 05/09/2007 6:51:14 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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