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1 posted on 05/08/2007 11:58:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
The power to pardon traditionally belongs to the president.

The power to pardon has nothing to do with "tradition", it is granted exclusively to the president by the Constitution. Hunter, although well intentioned, is attempting to do something that is clearly unconstitutional. It would be better if he proposed a "sense of the House" proclamation.

Article 2 - The Executive Branch

Section 2 - Civilian Power Over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President .... shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

2 posted on 05/09/2007 12:12:14 AM PDT by Prokopton
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That is the mark of a man unafraid to stand for what’s right.

It will be interesting to see who will embrace this pardon legislation, and who will run from it.

This affirms once again to me that I’m supporting the right man for President.


3 posted on 05/09/2007 12:13:05 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Jim Robinson
"Formal debate over general immigration legislation is set to begin May 14 in the Senate."

...and end in 2050, when we've become a province of Mexico.

All election season posturing.

No border = No country.

No immigration enforcement = No immigration law.

4 posted on 05/09/2007 12:33:00 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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“For Mr. Hunter and other immigration hardliners, their conviction is an “extreme injustice.”

Maybe the sentences were an injustice but their convictions weren’t. These two LEO’s shot un unarmed, fleeing suspect in the back, tried to cover it up, lied about it and then when they got to court their story was “we thought we saw a black shiny object in his hand”.

At the time the shoot, they didn’t know if he was a smuggler, a coyote or even if he was a US or Mexican citizen. All they knew was he took them on a short high speed pursuit in a van that didn’t even match the description of the vehicle originally reported leaving the drop area.

I’m all for fully supporting the efforts of our BPA’s, but that support shouldn’t be blind. Maybe these guys didn’t deserve 11-12 years in jail but they also don’t deserve to walk scot free.

Condoning such obvious and dangerous violations of anyones civil rights is a slippery slope to a police state. Illegals may be the “jews” of 21st century America, but as we saw in nazi Germany, that kind of blanket police authority easily moves from one scapegoat to the next.

Either we protect the rights of everyone or no one is safe.

7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:49:48 AM PDT by Bob J (nks)
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To: Ajnin; Arizona Carolyn; Calpernia; CAluvdubya; christynsoldier; Cyropaedia; dennisw; Digger; ...

Ramos/Compean and Duncan Hunter Ping!


16 posted on 05/09/2007 1:32:36 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Jim Robinson
Although I agree with Representative Hunter's sentiment, this is without basis in Constitutional law. It does have the benefit of turning the heat up, and possibly getting the word out about the agants' plight. It also gives the others in Congress and elsewhere the opportunity to expound on the situation.

While I do not expect it to directly accomplish much, the indirect results from putting pressure on the other members and the POTUS may be interesting. Sometimes all one can do is push for those indirect results.

19 posted on 05/09/2007 1:46:37 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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Superb indea Mr. Hunter.


66 posted on 05/09/2007 4:10:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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The Left wants to castrate the Border Patrol, the LAPD and all law enforcement, and our entire Armed Forces. Unfortunately, they’re succeeding.


102 posted on 05/09/2007 9:22:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A [Free] Republic, if you can keep it.")
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ping


104 posted on 05/09/2007 9:44:37 AM PDT by gubamyster
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“The Congress is doing nothing! more than initiating a pardon.”

That's more like it. Our do nothing Congress is part of the reason we have such a mess on our borders, and the very reason those two border patrol agents are in prison!

Thank God for men like Duncan Hunter! GW has sat on this for a few months now. He was supposed to review it and make a decision about pardoning them. I never expected to follow through with it because that would have meant going against Mexico's wishes, and God knows he will never do that.

136 posted on 05/09/2007 7:21:19 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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God Bless his heart! I stood up and cheered when he mentioned the border patrol guys in the "debate".

Come on, GW, don't wait two years to do what's right!

139 posted on 05/09/2007 10:23:19 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ronald Reagan's America Will Live Again

GOP Presidential Debate--May 15---Columbia, S.C.

Duncan Hunter Video & Audio Links
Duncan Hunter YouTube Spotlight
General Chuck Yeager Support’s Duncan Hunter
Ann Coulter Supports Duncan Hunter
Debate at Reagan Library 5-3-07
Fox News Interview 5-4-07
Iraq Resolution Speech
Right to Life Rally
Firefighter’s Forum
Let’s Build This Fence (Immigration)
China Cheating on Trade Ad
Border Fence Ad
DH Message To Conservatives 4-4-07
Pro Life News Interview
Hardball Interview
Glenn Beck Interview
MSNBC Interview
Situation Room Clip
Blog Interview
Memorial Day ’06 Audio Link (long)
Podcast Interview (Gun Rights Discussed)


141 posted on 05/10/2007 8:48:15 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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Wow, I hope it works....I’m glad he’s trying this. Of course, it scares me a little too, because if this works, what other dem. nuts might try it as well. Those poor men deserve a pardon though. I hate that this has happened to them.


178 posted on 05/14/2007 7:59:36 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger ("When our problems in the country seem larger, our politicians become smaller. " Fred Thompson)
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