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A Mysterious Killer of Honeybees Threatens Our Food Supply
Second Opinion Newsletter ^ | NA | Dr. robert Rowen M.D

Posted on 05/08/2007 4:25:15 PM PDT by dvan

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To: Sunnyflorida

I don’t believe in evolution, in that a human evolved from pond scum or that an ape became a man. I also don’t believe the world was created in 7 days. It is a great mystery but we should try to understand God’s word not evolution. The bible, upon close study, tells us many of those mysteries.


141 posted on 05/09/2007 12:29:04 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

http://www.uoguelph.ca/mediarel/2005/07/bees_abuzz_for.html

This link shows what some people are doing.

As to how to maintain a hive in the swamp I am sure your local agricultural extension office could give good advice. I really have no good idea how to do that. Note there is a difference between keeping a hive healthy and pushing it to far. The consequence of pushing to hard is no bees.


142 posted on 05/09/2007 3:32:00 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Shanty Shaker

I don’t want to push them, I only want them to stay on my land and not ehad towards some of the larger argi lands around me


143 posted on 05/09/2007 3:49:14 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: UnChained

Lousy cell coverage here. I’m in one of the original gold rush towns in the foothills of the Sierras.


144 posted on 05/09/2007 7:51:33 PM PDT by anonsquared (WHAT'S MADE IN CHINA, STAYS IN CHINA!)
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To: anonsquared

Hmmm


145 posted on 05/10/2007 4:17:29 AM PDT by UnChained (Illegal immigrants aren't the problem. Liberalism is.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

It’s nothing but paranoia from the Alex Jones crowd. Alex Jones wants you to think that “it’s the chemtrails that’s killing off the bees”. I mean how nutty is THAT?


146 posted on 05/14/2007 12:47:31 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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To: Ping-Pong

“we should try to understand God’s word not evolution”

You, of course, are blessed to have this believe. I am equally blessed to believe HIS word is evolution. For GOD to be literal would be cruel, IMHO.


147 posted on 05/14/2007 6:21:03 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: bigdcaldavis
I would not be surprised to see bees like all other forms in nature to have natural wild swings. Rush is right when he says for most people history begins the day they were born. For example, the current “drought” in Florida. I can remember times it was much dryer. Today some local info-babe did a story where this is the "driest on record since 2001"!!!
148 posted on 05/14/2007 6:26:56 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Sunnyflorida

I know to some people when you say evolution, it means to them that you don’t believe in God. I find this belief strange because to my way of thinking (and possibly yours) evolution is Gods way of creating. My God is very powerful and very intelligent and figured this all out and set it into motion and he watches over the process. Nothing is an accident that came from pond scum.


149 posted on 05/14/2007 6:42:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Sunnyflorida; Ditter

I am blessed and I am glad that you are too. God is never cruel. His Word tells us what happened and we did not evolve. We are as He made us. You will also find that His word tells us that the world is very ancient, not the few thousand years many churches teach. I agree with Him and science in that the world is millions or billions of years old. He tells us that in Gen. 1:1-2.


150 posted on 05/14/2007 7:16:56 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ditter

Exactly. GOD gave us a brain and a very complicated process and said, “figure this out.” There is no accident but He did give man the ability to figure it out. IMHO, people that take the Bible literally are short changing GOD.


151 posted on 05/14/2007 8:46:16 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: dvan

It is only the commercial Corporate bees. Private bees are okay.


152 posted on 05/14/2007 8:49:25 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Ping-Pong
“we did not evolve.”

You cannot proof that. We do not know for sure his Word. The dudes that took down the Bible could have been wrong or devious or allegorical. Evolution is not anti-God. It could just as well be God's plan. Nobody knows for sure. There is nothing in evolution that deals with the spirit, just the body.

153 posted on 05/14/2007 8:50:00 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Sunnyflorida; Ping-Pong
ping pong My God, the One God who created the universe used a method that we now call evolution. He watches over us constantly and his method is amazing and more than my small brain can comprehend. I know you were taught differently and you will probably never agree. I don’t remember being taught this, I was just taught that God is all powerful and evolution makes sense when it is seen as the tool God used to build the universe.”Behold the lillies of the field” they are not an accident and neither are we.
154 posted on 05/14/2007 9:08:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: RightWhale
It is only the commercial Corporate bees. Private bees are okay.

I hope you're right but I'm not seeing any where I live. I have a vegetable and flower gardens and I just see a few bumble bees, except for one lone honey bee a few weeks ago. We had quite a few over the years that lived in the hollows of trees but we don't see them anymore.

155 posted on 05/14/2007 11:02:16 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong

I saw a hopeful honey bee just yesterday, but since there are no flowering blooms yet the bee will have to get by scavenging leaf buds, which are just popping, especially aspen, alder and birch. Willow is turning green and should leaf out soon. The wasps are ready, as usual.


156 posted on 05/14/2007 11:07:28 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Ditter; Sunnyflorida
”Behold the lillies of the field” they are not an accident and neither are we.

Of course we aren't an accident. We are as He made us. Ditter, I felt just as you do not long ago but no more. I believe each species is able to adapt, within itself, to it's environment. Some call that macro evolution. However, that species does not change into another. We are no accident, we are what He made us.

“we did not evolve.” You cannot proof that. We do not know for sure his Word. The dudes that took down the Bible could have been wrong or devious or allegorical. Evolution is not anti-God. It could just as well be God's plan. Nobody knows for sure. There is nothing in evolution that deals with the spirit, just the body.

The "dudes" weren't devious but scribes may have been. However, the original, as passed down in the massarotic text are as they have always been.

There is Biblical allegory but when God said the following it was not allegorical:

Gen.1:26 Then God said, Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;....
27.So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

God has a plan but it isn't evolution. We're here in these flesh bodies for a short time to decide who we follow - Satan or God. His plan is for us to find Him.

......Ping

157 posted on 05/14/2007 11:38:30 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Mark
Rush brought this up weeks ago and he took it seriously until hearing that it was baseless.

And of course Rush Limbaugh is an expert on entomology...

158 posted on 05/14/2007 11:41:07 AM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: RightWhale

I hope you have lots of them there, which must be up north. We’re in full summer here with the AC running all the time (lots of humidity). Even without the bees my fruit trees look full of tiny fruit and my vegetables are producing too.

What a beautiful world we live in.


159 posted on 05/14/2007 11:58:51 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong

My fruit is the best yet. I have zillions of mango’s and they are sooooo tasty. For the first time since charley my grapefruit is loaded. My little key lime is busting out with fruits and more and more blossoms. Now if I could only get the new lemon tree to produce blossoms like the pre-charley one I’ll be very happy.

I just remember this bee thing to be a cyclical story.


160 posted on 05/14/2007 4:00:40 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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