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Nothing to Cheer About: Smoking ban violates business owner’s property rights.
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Posted on 05/08/2007 9:03:55 AM PDT by Reagan Fellow

We have been inundated with stories about the statewide smoking ban that went into effect last week. Reports indicated that patrons cheered at some establishments when the ban became effective on May 1st. The Arizona Republic noted, “The air in the Valley just got a little bit clearer, at least inside.”

But the law was never really about breathing healthy air. It was about a majority imposing its will on an unpopular minority. And it’s not the smokers I’m talking about.

Bar and restaurant owners invest time, money and energy determining how they will operate their business. I wonder if those cheering would be willing to prohibit other things in drinking and eating establishments that bother them or may impact one’s health. What about loud music? Dim lighting? Of course, banning certain foods is just around the corner.

When a majority decides that it can infringe on the property rights and business decisions of another person, we set a dangerous precedent. It’s the kind of thinking that leads to private property being taken for another person’s private use, as was allowed in the Kelo v. City of New London U.S. Supreme Court case. And that’s nothing to cheer about.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: govwatch; nannystate; propertyrights
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1 posted on 05/08/2007 9:04:00 AM PDT by Reagan Fellow
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To: Reagan Fellow

Good article. It is not appropriate for the gubmint to tell anyone what they can do with their private property.


2 posted on 05/08/2007 9:06:41 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: Reagan Fellow

You’ll be able to live to 130.....you won’t have any freedoms mind you. But you will live to 130.

And that’s all that is important, isn’t it? /sarc


3 posted on 05/08/2007 9:07:47 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth is to Liberals what Kryptonite is to Superman)
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To: Reagan Fellow
Of course, banning certain foods is just around the corner.

An obvious reference to the ROP.

4 posted on 05/08/2007 9:08:50 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Red in Blue PA

You’ll be able to live to 130.....you won’t have any freedoms mind you. But you will live to 130.

And that’s all that is important, isn’t it?

Let me clarify this - You’ll be able to pay taxes until you are 130. That’s what’s important!


5 posted on 05/08/2007 9:14:32 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Reagan Fellow

One of these days, these idiots will figure out that “living” is dangerous to your health and they’ll outlaw it.


6 posted on 05/08/2007 9:14:59 AM PDT by RC2
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To: SheLion

Ping


7 posted on 05/08/2007 9:16:11 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: RC2
One of these days, these idiots will figure out that “living” is dangerous to your health and they’ll outlaw it.

In some aspects......they already have.

8 posted on 05/08/2007 9:17:21 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Reagan Fellow

No Smoking laws are applauded by a huge majority of people. Some are conservatives that have little common sense or regard for the Constitution. Most people believe that “majority rules” is the way our guvmit was formed. A sad testiment to our guvmit schools.


9 posted on 05/08/2007 9:18:12 AM PDT by albie
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To: Red in Blue PA
“You’ll be able to live to 130”

Actually you won’t. The Govt will decide that once you hit age.........120, no make it 110, ummm, better lower it to 100, that your quality of life is not high enough to force you to go on living. They will do the humanitarian thing and “Put you to sleep”. The real reason will be that the cost of socialized medicine is to high.

10 posted on 05/08/2007 9:18:31 AM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Reagan Fellow
The hypocrisy of the anti smoking movement is that if a legislator were to believe all the health hype they would be shirking their duty not to ban cigarettes altogether. However, that won’t happen because smokers are a major revenue source that is easy to tax...it’s for your health you know. Consider cigarette taxes the ultimate death tax...we don’t want you to smoke but are glad to take your money if you choose to use this LEGAL product.
11 posted on 05/08/2007 9:20:21 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: eyedigress
"An obvious reference to the ROP."

I think it's a more pointed reference to transfats. Muslims aren't concerned about banning certain foods; they'll merely lop off your head if you eat or serve them the wrong ones.

12 posted on 05/08/2007 9:24:13 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: JamesP81

It is not their private property. It is rented from the government (property taxes) therefore they can tell them what to do with it.
Doesn’t make it right, it is just the way it is.


13 posted on 05/08/2007 9:25:01 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Joe 6-pack

You’re probably right. But I can’t help thinking about the checkers who would not scan the pork products in their store.


14 posted on 05/08/2007 9:28:42 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
An obvious reference to the ROP.

Not yet...IMO.

A reference to trans fat which has been proven to clog arteries and shorten life.

Bacon, ham and other pork will be the future...if the Islamic jihad is victorious.

15 posted on 05/08/2007 9:29:05 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Reagan Fellow

Private property is a natural right that all humans have.
Communism does away with private property as soon as it comes into power.
In the USA, both parties subscribe to the tenets of communism, although in different degrees.
The American public would never allow the government to take away private property. The politicians know this, so they gradually render the concept of private property meaningless. They invented the property tax, which confiscates a percentage of your house and land each year. They invented the laws which severely restrict what we can do on our property. Given enough time, the politicians will have accomplished what they set out to: they will have taken control of all private property but they will have left us with the taxes!


16 posted on 05/08/2007 9:30:58 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: SheLion; Gabz; CSM
Puff

Some folks still don't get that the property that one has put their life's blood into should not be controlled by other people that may (and I emphasize MAY), or may not, frequent that property.

17 posted on 05/08/2007 9:32:38 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: LaineyDee
Yes, the “environmentalists” seriously believe the population is too high. Witness many of their decisions concerning the third world - for example, banning DDT.
18 posted on 05/08/2007 9:33:09 AM PDT by clyde asbury (I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.)
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To: RC2

...Some news for nonsmokers. Everyday nonsmokers pass away... Just like those that smoke cigarettes...


19 posted on 05/08/2007 9:35:26 AM PDT by gargoyle
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To: albie

“Some are conservatives that have little common sense or regard for the Constitution.”

In that case they are not “Conservatives.” Republicans maybe, conservatives definitely not.


20 posted on 05/08/2007 9:37:20 AM PDT by CSM ("The rioting arsonists are the same folks who scream about global warming." LibFreeOrDie 5/7/07)
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