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Will Britain One Day be Muslim?
Daily Mail ^ | May 5, '07 | Ruth Dudley Edwards

Posted on 05/07/2007 1:00:45 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

In my many conversations with people about the threat that radical Islam poses to the British way of life - and, indeed, to European civilization - we frequently end by despairingly agreeing that the West seems intent on committing political and cultural suicide. We look starkly at the demographic statistics, the wimpishness of our Establishment in the face of the threat, the perversions perpetuated by political correctness and our own passivity, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that within a couple of generations, Islam will be in control in Europe. Consider just a few chilling statistics. Europeans are failing to reproduce. Just to keep the population steady, you need to have 2.1 live births per woman. However, in 2005, the European average was 1.38. In Irealand it was 1.9, France 1.89, Germany 1.35 and Italy 1.23. Britain scored near the middle of this range with 1.6, but that was because - like France - we have a large Muslim population with a high birth rate. Indeed, Muslims are outbreeding non-Muslims throughout Europe.

"Just look at the development within Europe," said a triumphant Norwegian imam a few months ago, "where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children. Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."

The big question this poses is: Why are we not reproducing? There are many reasons but probably the most important are the decline of religion and the liberation of women. Whereas in the 1970's, I was regarded both in the UK and Ireland as odd for being voluntarily childless, these days, childlessness is a common choice. In Ireland...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: americaalone; deathofthewest; dhimmitude; islam; islamophiles; muhammadsminions
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To: RECONRICK
I have a lot of British friends. Know what they call London?

Ooooohhhh, aren't you special. So what? Does London make up all of the UK, let alone England? No. Let's see 60 million people in all of the UK (least for now unless the SNP changes things), 8-10 million in London, and 3% of all the UK is Muslim. That means there's not even a majority in the capitol!!

For the life of me (except when I took a wrong turn one time), the last time I was there I don't remember ever seeing a large majority of Muslims. Guess they were hiding huh?

41 posted on 05/07/2007 1:45:13 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: RECONRICK
The fact is, there are more Muslim mosques than there are Christian churches in Britain.

An urban myth. A recent survey estimated that there were 613 mosques in Britain. I can't get a very accurate number of churches but is in the region of 2,845.

43 posted on 05/07/2007 1:47:30 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: GreenThumb420
CIA.GOV states that the UK's Muslim population amounts to less than %3.

No offense, but you may not want to rely on publicly-available CIA info for accurate information on... well... anything.

45 posted on 05/07/2007 1:49:48 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} GO HUNTER '08)
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To: RECONRICK

“Britain is practically Muslim now.”

Oh yea, says who??????


46 posted on 05/07/2007 1:49:57 PM PDT by batco-barry
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To: Ben Mugged

How many Catholic churches are there in Britain? The orginal comparison that I read was not between the number of mosques and all churches but the number of mosques versus Catholic churches.


47 posted on 05/07/2007 1:50:02 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
You know when I researched my earlier reply I could not find an accurate number of churches listed anywhere. Someone else posted a link to a Times article that has better info than I could find. One of the problems is the difference between Church of England Catholics and Roman Catholics.
48 posted on 05/07/2007 1:52:51 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: T.L.Sink
...the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes..

Mosquitoes spread disease, squash them. Better yet bring back the DDT.

49 posted on 05/07/2007 1:53:44 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: T.L.Sink
The big question this poses is: Why are we not reproducing?

Because we're being taxed to death and don't want to go on welfare.

Next question.
50 posted on 05/07/2007 1:54:43 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Cheese . . . milk's leap toward immortality.)
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To: Oberon
We tried that already. The Limeys claimed we were “over paid, over sexed and over here”.
51 posted on 05/07/2007 1:54:46 PM PDT by shove_it (old Old Guardsman)
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To: Oberon

“Okay, gents, I need as many volunteers as I can get to charter a flight (or better, a ship) to the UK for an extended visit. It’s our duty to save Britain from the invader...in this case, by boosting the birthrate.

When we get there, you know what to do!”

LOL....
Hope you have more luck than me. Whenever i’m back on leave, I take the same attitude, you know ;-)..but always end up with a :-(


52 posted on 05/07/2007 1:55:34 PM PDT by batco-barry
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To: utherdoul

‘I love you brits, but he does have a point. Muslims are expanding rapidly enough that very soon you’ll find he’s all too right.’

He only has a point if you completely ignore the facts and rely on guesswork.

More Polish catholic immigrants have been allowed into the UK since 2004 than Muslims have been since 1980. The UK muslim population is growing at 0.02% per annum. America has three times as many muslims in prison as the UK has total prison population. The UK has 1.7m muslims. No-one seems to know for sure how many are in the US - somewhere between 7m and 15m depending on who you ask.

I love the US too, but really, the UK’s muslim problems will look like a blip compared to the US if you don’t get hold of immigration quickly.


53 posted on 05/07/2007 1:57:36 PM PDT by britemp
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To: RECONRICK

Really? If you read the article, it’s clear it’s not the buildings they are counting but actual practicing churches. Also please note the growth of Evangelical churches. So quit trying to scare people with nonsense that just simply is not true. Islam is growing yes. Perhaps when Blair is gone, the PC will be gone and they’ll get a handle on it. But it’s simply not a nation run wild just yet either...


54 posted on 05/07/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: batco-barry
Hope you have more luck than me.

We'll also pool our resources to provide generous quantities of locally-brewed beer for those who find it advantageous, or require it in order to boost the number of eligible partners in the locale.

55 posted on 05/07/2007 2:00:22 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: RECONRICK

So Muslims can offend Christians all day long, in fact, anyone can offend a Christian and no big deal. But offending a Muslim is against the law????

The world has gone upside down.


56 posted on 05/07/2007 2:00:29 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABELER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: RECONRICK
"The fact is, there are more Muslim mosques than there are Christian churches in Britain."

Source?

57 posted on 05/07/2007 2:00:57 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: RECONRICK

‘The fact is, there are more Muslim mosques than there are Christian churches in Britain.’

You wouldn’t know what a fact was if it bit you on the ass. There are 47,000 churches in the UK and 1203 mosques.

‘Didn’t Britain just try to jail some Christians for “hate speech” because they gave some Muslims Christian literature, under a new statute that was passed so Muslims would not be “offended”?’

No.


58 posted on 05/07/2007 2:02:40 PM PDT by britemp
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To: andonte

“Britain is already Muslim.”

And how did you come to this understanding????

“Queen Elizabeth II is over here celebrating while her countrymen are giving England away. Fools, all of them.”

How about taking a trip to the UK, just so that you can see that what you’ve just said is total cr*p!!!


59 posted on 05/07/2007 2:02:49 PM PDT by batco-barry
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To: RECONRICK

“The fact is, there are more Muslim mosques than there are Christian churches in Britain.

Didn’t Britain just try to jail some Christians for “hate speech” because they gave some Muslims Christian literature, under a new statute that was passed so Muslims would not be “offended”?”

Well if you read it in an email, it’s probably true.


60 posted on 05/07/2007 2:04:11 PM PDT by DemEater
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