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A Liberal Case for Gun Rights Helps Sway Judiciary
New Yortk Times ^ | May 6, 2007 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 05/06/2007 12:59:40 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS

In March, for the first time in the nation’s history, a federal appeals court struck down a gun control law on Second Amendment grounds. Only a few decades ago, the decision would have been unimaginable.

READ THE REST HERE: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/us/06firearms.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: constitution; greylady; guns
can't decide whether it's good or bad to have the NYTimes agreeing with me on this issue. But it is amusing to watch the Times suffer with the fact that an evil position is being articulated by Good people, if only so the Good people can demonstrate their bona fides while they advocate for other Good positions
1 posted on 05/06/2007 12:59:42 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: JOHN ADAMS
Already posted here.
2 posted on 05/06/2007 1:10:37 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... - can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
What a concept! Discovering a right that “shall not be infringed”.

What is at work when “Liberals” now can make a “Case” for the plain text of the Constitution? Maybe this is a sophisticated way of trying to push themselves in front of the cameras to claim the high ground on the issue.

Or yet again, if libs claim to have discovered this right, then the next step will be to claim the right to tell the rest of us how it should be “regulated”, which is to say Rosie can have armed guards but the great unwashed are still not qualified to protect themselves.

Can I get me a huntin' license here?

3 posted on 05/06/2007 1:17:34 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Of course, as we all know, “regulated” means “trained”, not restricted or legislated. Which is why troops that mustered and trained regularly were called, well, “regulars”.

And, as we all know, the independent, subordinate clause “A well regulated militia ...” means nothing in the context of The Second Amendment, as the operational clause “The right of The People ...” carries all the weight of that amendment.


4 posted on 05/06/2007 1:58:23 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: JOHN ADAMS

“Those who hammer their guns into plows
will plow for those who do not.”
- Thomas Jefferson

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

3. Colt: The original point and click interface.

4. Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control.

5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

7. “Free” men do not ask permission to bear arms.

8. If you don’t know your rights you don’t have any.

9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved.

11. What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?

12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

14. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.

15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

16. You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

19. Criminals love gun control — it makes their jobs safer.

20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

23. Enforce the “gun control laws” we ALREADY have, don’t make more.

24. When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves.

25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

26. “A government of the people, by the people, for the people...”

IF YOU AGREE: PLEASE PASS THIS ‘REFRESHER’ ON TO 10 FREE CITIZENS


5 posted on 05/06/2007 2:46:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

And you know that he who controls the meaning of words and phrases controls the debate, or in this case how the government will decide what is legal and what is not.

The Second suffers from Deconstruction, where the words and phrases are taken apart, given new meanings, and then used as the bricks and raw material from which to rebuild a new government power, one in which it grants itself a power that the Constitution already gives it. The words are the same, but the new meaning is the exact reverse.


6 posted on 05/06/2007 4:26:15 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I agree with everything but this....

"23. Enforce the “gun control laws” we ALREADY have, don’t make more."

It should have read....

Repeal the 'gun control laws', we already have, don't make more.
7 posted on 05/06/2007 4:31:03 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: theBuckwheat

100% in agreement.

If these guys read the supporting documents (Federalist Papers, etc. ) written by the very same people who wrote The Constitution, as well as the Bill of Rights, this would be a no-brainer.

Unfortunately, we’re left with some SCOTUS justices who would prefer not to look at historical context.


8 posted on 05/07/2007 7:01:26 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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