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Two big issues emerge following GOP debate
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 5, 2007 | By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE, New York Times

Posted on 05/06/2007 2:08:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Last week's debate among 10 Republican presidential candidates encompassed all the usual issues and then some, but some of its most striking moments centered on two topics: abortion and evolution.

While his opponents restated their opposition to abortion rights, former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani put himself on all sides of the issue, including staking out a new position — that he would be "OK" with the repeal of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision establishing a constitutional right to abortion.

But he also said he would be "OK" if a conservative judge upheld the decision because it was a long-established precedent.

Giuliani said in the debate that he opposed using public money to finance abortions, but just last month, he told CNN that he supported using public money, the same position he had held as mayor. And while he said he hated abortion, he said he saw it ultimately as a matter of conscience, concluding, "I would respect a woman's right to make a different choice."

Some surprises

As he has ventured into Republican primary territory, often dominated by the party's conservatives, Giuliani has edged toward a more nuanced position on abortion.

Still, his acquiescence in the debate Thursday to the idea of a repeal of Roe v. Wade surprised some longtime supporters.

"I was appalled," said Kelli Conlin, president of Naral Pro-Choice New York, which stayed neutral when Giuliani was a candidate for the Senate running against Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Conlin said that she recognized that it took "courage" to be the only person on a stage to stand up for abortion rights but said that if Giuliani became the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, she doubted that her group would remain neutral again.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; giuliani; prolife; romney
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To: Beagle8U
The Republican party would do as well if they nominated Mark Foley.
Don't give the MSM any ideas!
21 posted on 05/06/2007 3:57:43 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: missnry

LOL! That picture about sums it up.


22 posted on 05/06/2007 4:01:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: philman_36

They had BETTER make the fact that the next president will appoint AT LEAST TWO SUPREME COURT JUSTICES a clear stated issue in this campaign. HAMMER THE MESSAGE. Its a foregone conclusion that the Dems will have maximum turnout...irrespective of candidate....they are voting against Bush. The Republicans and silent majority, however, are apt to stay home if the Dem nominee isnt Hillary (and it looks like it wont be). GET ON MESSAGE.


23 posted on 05/06/2007 4:03:09 AM PDT by angrymarine (I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself.)
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To: missnry
The MSM doesn’t get to nominate our candidate. They just pimp the worst possible choice until its time to take them down.
24 posted on 05/06/2007 4:04:27 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: philman_36
Keep in mind that the Bible never says how old the Earth is.

The Bible says that God created the earth in 6 days and on the 7th he rested. Are we to believe that God's days were only 24 hour periods? I doubt it.

25 posted on 05/06/2007 4:12:05 AM PDT by madconserv (Jesus take the wheel- Dream ticket- Thompson\Hunter)
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To: Beagle8U
The MSM put Ghouliani at the top of the Republican pack.
He's a leeeeeeeeeeeader dontcha know?
26 posted on 05/06/2007 4:14:38 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Any politician, who supports abortion, evolution, gau marriage or global warming are no christians by any means. The Bible says so, american christians should head the warnings.


27 posted on 05/06/2007 4:15:51 AM PDT by Inge C (,)
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To: missnry
“The MSM put Ghouliani at the top of the Republican pack.
He’s a leeeeeeeeeeeader dontcha know?”

Funny that they never go into detail about what makes him a leader beyond the fact that Orka Winfrey said he was “America’s Mayor”.

28 posted on 05/06/2007 4:18:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Well if Orka Winfrey said it then I am just going to have to recheck my facts about the mayor! Wow, maybe he is a leader. /s


29 posted on 05/06/2007 4:35:07 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Rudy might lose the endorsement from NARAL! That’s hugh. If Rudy keeps up he may also lose the ACLU endorsement too.
30 posted on 05/06/2007 4:45:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: angrymarine

I’d be willing to bet that the subject never comes up in the televised debates which would be the best time for that to happen. If they keep having liberal moderators you can almost count on it. No mention, no opportunity.


31 posted on 05/06/2007 4:45:22 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Darkwolf377

Giuliani is in control of his own self-destruct buttons.


32 posted on 05/06/2007 4:49:29 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: madconserv
The Bible says that God created the earth in 6 days and on the 7th he rested.
And? What bearing does that have on...Keep in mind that the Bible never says how old the Earth is...?
Are we to believe that God's days were only 24 hour periods?
Since the Bible is either literal or figurative I would say that we are to take the days mentioned as literal days, not figurative.
I doubt it.
Go ahead, Thomas. If you choose to doubt it then that is your choice. Free will and all...
33 posted on 05/06/2007 4:52:36 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Jim Robinson
"While his opponents restated their opposition to abortion rights, former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani put himself on all sides of the issue, . . "

According to Rudy, God created evolution too. Now that's covering the bases. Did you know he cleaned up crime in NYC?

34 posted on 05/06/2007 4:57:31 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Jim Robinson
This is just another MSM way of trying to bait us into supporting Guiliani and giving the liberals two candidates friendly to their own agenda and us with no candidate at all.

Fingers crossed and hoping the majority of us see the treble hook buried in the bait.

35 posted on 05/06/2007 5:11:29 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (`Trust only those whom you have carefully scrutinized through the lenses of a maggotfrying glass.)
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To: missnry
Caption for pic. Rudy: “ I coulda hada V8.”
36 posted on 05/06/2007 5:16:07 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (`Trust only those whom you have carefully scrutinized through the lenses of a maggotfrying glass.)
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To: Always Right
If Rudy keeps up he may also lose the ACLU endorsement too.

Wake up.

They hate him.

37 posted on 05/06/2007 5:26:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Beagle8U
Rooty is their friend until he wins the nomination. After that they will drop a new scandal or liberal record of his past on him every week. He is unelectable as a Republican and the MSM knows it. A Rooty nomination would be their dream come true.

Hey Beagle, ever hear of something called plagiarism? LOL!!

Just kidding of course, but your post is almost word for word what I have been posting on Rootytootie threads for the last month or two. I'm just glad to know that I'm not the only one here who can see what the MSM is up to. Keep on posting the truth, maybe a few Rootytooties will eventually see the light.

The myopic Tooties think the media is out to get their man when the situation is really the opposite, at this point at least. If Rudy is nominated, God forbid, the all-out MSM attack will begin the moment the balloons start falling on the convention floor. But for now he's their golden haired boy.

BTW, have you noticed how the shift in the MSM attitude toward Fred Thompson is rapidly changing? When his name first began getting mentions in conservative publications they weren't alarmed, but now that his stock is rising fast in the polls the articles about him are becoming more hostile with every day that passes. The last thing the MSM libs want is for Fred to come out of the convention with the nomination in hand. If I was a betting man I would bet money that every network and major news org in the US has swarms of people out scouring the hills and valleys right now trying to dig up dirt on Fred for use if and when he announces his candidacy.

I wonder what politics would be like in a country with an unbiased, fairminded media. The US has never enjoyed that luxury since we kicked old King George out.

38 posted on 05/06/2007 6:13:32 AM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, question,

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=fredrepublic&tld=com

Does this mean FREErepublic.com is also fredrepublic.com
or have you changed the name?


39 posted on 05/06/2007 6:31:05 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Jim Robinson
Even if NARAL opposes him, it doesn’t make Rudy more acceptable to me.

Like Reagan said, “The enemy of our enemy is not necessarily our friend.”

40 posted on 05/06/2007 6:44:45 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside (Rudy Giuliani is just another "Empty Dress Republican")
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