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Is this REALLY proof that man can see into the future?
The Daily Mail ^ | 4th May 2007

Posted on 05/05/2007 8:00:52 AM PDT by fanfan

Do some of us avoid tragedy by foreseeing it? Some scientists nowbelieve that the brain really CAN predict events before they happen

Professor Dick Bierman sits hunched over his computer in a darkened room. The gentle whirring of machinery can be heard faintly in the background.

He smiles and presses a grubby-looking red button.

In the next room, a patient slips slowly inside a hospital brain scanner. If it wasn't for the strange smiles and grimaces that flicker across the woman's face, you could be forgiven for thinking this was just a normal health check.

But this scanner is engaged in one of the most profound paranormal experiments of all time, one that may well prove whether or not it is possible to predict the future.

For the results - released exclusively to the Daily Mail - suggest that ordinary people really do have a sixth sense that can help them 'see' the future.

Such amazing studies - if verified - might help explain the predictive powers of mediums and a range of other psychic phenomena such Extra Sensory Perception, deja vu and clairvoyance. On a more mundane level, it may account for 'gut feelings' and instinct.

The man behind the experiments is certainly convinced. "We're satisfied that people can sense the future before it happens," says Professor Bierman, a psychologist at the University of Amsterdam.

"We'd now like to move on and see what kind of person is particularly good at it."

And Bierman is not alone: his findings mirror the data gathered by other scientists and paranormal researchers both here and abroad.

Professor Brian Josephson, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist from Cambridge University, says: "So far, the evidence seems compelling. What seems to be happening is that information is coming from the future.

"In fact, it's not clear in physics why you can't see the future. In physics, you certainly cannot completely rule out this effect."

Virtually all the great scientific formulae which explain how the world works allow information to flow backwards and forwards through time - they can work either way, regardless.

Shortly after 9/11, strange stories began circulating about the lucky few who had escaped the outrage.

It transpired that many of the survivors had changed their plans at the last minute after vague feelings of unease.

It was a subtle, gnawing feeling that 'something' was not right. Nobody vocalised it but shortly before the attacks, people started altering their plans out of an unspoken instinct.

One woman suffered crippling stomach pain while queuing for one of the ill-fated planes which flew into the World Trade Center.

She made her way to the lavatory only to recover spontaneously. She missed her flight but survived the day. Amid the collective outpouring of grief and horror it was easy to overlook such stories or write them off as coincidences.

But in fact, these kind of stories point to an interesting and deeper truth for those willing to look.

If, for example, fewer people decided to fly on aircraft that subsequently crashed, then that would suggest a subconscious ability to divine the future. Well, strange as it seems, that's just what happens.

The aircraft which flew into the Twin Towers on 9/11 were unusually empty. All the hijacked planes were carrying only half the usual number of passengers. Perhaps one unusually empty plane could be explained away, but all four?

And it wasn't just on 9/11 that people subconsciously seemed to avoid disaster. The scientist Ed Cox found that trains 'destined' to crash carried far fewer people than they did normally.

Dr Jessica Utts, a statistician at the University of California, found exactly the same bizarre effect.

If it was possible to divine the future, you might expect those at the sharp end, such as pilots, to have the most finely tuned instincts of all. And again, that's just what you see.

When the Air France Concorde crashed in 2000, it wasn't long before the colleagues of those killed in the crash spoke about a sense of foreboding that had gripped the crew and flight engineers before the accident.

Speaking anonymously to the French newspaper Le Parisien, one spoke of a 'morbid expectation of an accident'.

"I had this sense that we were going to bump into the scenery," he said.

"The atmosphere on the Concorde team for the last few months, if one has the guts to admit it, had been one of morbid expectation of an accident. It was as if I was waiting for something to happen."

All of these stories suggest that we can pick up premonitions of events that are yet to be.

Although these premonitions are not in glorious Technicolor, they are often emotionally powerful enough for us to act upon them.

In technical parlance it is known as 'presentiment' because emotional feelings are being received from the future, not hard facts or information.

The military has long been fascinated by such phenomena. For many years the US military (and latterly the CIA) funded a secretive programme known as Stargate, which set out to investigate premonitions and the ability of mediums to predict the future.

Dr Dean Radin worked on the Stargate programme and became fascinated by the ability of 'lucky' soldiers to forecast the future.

These are the ones who survived battles against seemingly impossible odds. Radin became convinced that thoughts and feelings - and occasionally-actual glimpses of the future - could flow backwards in time to guide soldiers.

It helped them make life-saving decisions, often on the basis of a hunch.

He devised an experiment to test these ideas. He hooked up volunteers to a modified lie detector, which measured an electrical current across the surface of the skin.

This current changes when a person reacts to an event such as seeing an extremely violent picture or video. It's the electrical equivalent of a wince.

Radin showed sexually explicit, violent or soothing images to volunteers in a random sequence determined by computer.

And he soon discovered that people began reacting to the pictures before they saw them. It was unmistakable. They began to 'wince' a few seconds before they actually saw the image.

And it happened time and time again, way beyond what chance alone would allow.

So impressive were Radin's results that Dr Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prizewinning chemist, took an interest. He was hooked up to Radin's machine and shown the emotionally charged images.

"It's spooky," he says "I could see about three seconds into the future. You shouldn't be able to do that."

Other researchers from around the world, from Edinburgh University to Cornell in the US, rushed to duplicate Radin's experiment and improve on it. And they got similar results.

It was soon discovered that gamblers began reacting subconsciously shortly before they won or lost. The same effect was seen in those terrified of animals, moments before they were shown the creatures.

The odds against all of these trials being wrong are literally millions to one against.

Professor Dick Bierman decided to take this work even further. He is a psychologist who has become convinced that time as we understand it is an illusion. He could see no reason why people could not see into the future just as easily as we dip into memories of our past.

He's in good company. Einstein described the distinction between the past, present and future as 'a stubbornly persistent illusion'.

To prove Einstein's point, Bierman looked inside the brains of volunteers using a hospital MRI scanner while he repeated Dr Radin's experiments.

These scanners show which parts of the brain are active when we do certain tasks or experience specific emotions.

Although extremely complex, and with each analysis taking weeks of computing time, he has run the experiments twice involving more than 20 volunteers.

And the results suggest quite clearly that seemingly ordinary people are capable of sensing the future on a fairly consistent basis. Bierman emphasises that people are receiving feelings from the future rather than specific 'visions'.

It's clear, though, that if ordinary people can receive feelings from the future then perhaps the especially gifted may receive visions of things yet to be.

It's also clear that many paranormal phenomena such as ESP and clairvoyance could have their roots in presentiment.

After all, if you can see a few seconds into the future, why not a few days or even years? And surely if you could look through time, why not across great distances?It's a concept that ties the mind in knots, unless you're a physicist.

"I believe that we can 'sense' the future," says the Nobel Prizewinning physicist Brian Josephson.

"We just haven't yet established the mechanism allowing it to happen.

"People have had so called 'paranormal' or 'transcendental' experiences along these lines. Bierman's work is another piece of the jigsaw. The fact that we don't understand something does not mean that it doesn't happen.'

If we are all regularly sensing the future or occasionally receiving glimpses of it, as some mediums claim to do, then doesn't that mean we can change the future and render the 'prediction' obsolete?

Or perhaps we were meant to receive the premonition and act upon it? Such paradoxes could go on for ever, providing a rich seam of material for films such as Minority Report - based on a short story of the same name - in which a special police department is able to foresee and prevent crimes before they have even taken place.

Could such science fiction have a grain of truth in it after all? The emerging view, Bierman explains, is that 'the future has implications for the past'.

"This phenomena allows you to make a decision on the basis of what will happen in the future. Does that restrain our free will? That's up to the philosophers. I'm far too shallow a person to worry about that."

The problem with presentiment is that it appears so nebulous that you can't rely on it to make reliable decisions. That may be the case, but there are plenty of instances where people wished they had listened to their premonitions or feelings of presentiment.

One of the saddest involves the Aberfan disaster. This occurred in 1966 when a coal tip collapsed and swept through a Welsh school killing 144 people, including 116 children. It turned out that 24 people had received premonitions of the tragedy.

One involved a little girl who was killed. She told her mother shortly before she was taken to school: "I dreamed I went to school and there was no school there. Something black had come down all over it."

So should we listen to our instincts, hunches and dreams? Some experts believe we may already be using them in our everyday lives to a surprising degree.

Dr Jessica Utts at the University of California, who has worked for the US military and CIA as an independent auditor of its paranormal research, believes we are constantly sampling the future and using the knowledge to help us make better decisions.

"I think we're doing it all the time," she says. "We've looked at the data and it does seem to happen."

So perhaps the Queen in Through The Looking Glass was right: "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: clairvoyance; dregonspengler; drpetervenkman; esp; paranormal; premonition; premonitions; presentiment; psychic
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To: fanfan

Interesting that millions-to-1 odds scientifically permit people to believe in peoples’ abilities to see the future, yet mathematicians calculate the improbability of one protein coming about via random events at 10 to the 40,000th power and that is not enough to convince people that life/creation is not a random accident.


181 posted on 05/06/2007 8:50:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Ditter

I’ve had a few dreams, mostly of minor importance that come true. Just the other day I was grabbing my kid’s jacket and the little plastic dohicky at the end of the elastic got caught on the car seat as I was pulling it out. It stayed caught until it freed itself and then came flying out and gave me a good rap on my thumb’s fingernail and it HURT!

I instantly recalled the dream the night before where I was sitting at a stop sign watching some workers and one guy banged his thumb with a hammer and started cussing and waving his hand around!? Of course I wouldn’t have remembered this dream if I hadn’t wacked my thumb. So - was the dream a premonition (I’m not in construction, etc.), or - I think we have like hundreds of dreams each night - each lasting only a few seconds - and perhaps when one of them matches something that happens during the day we recall the dream?

There is another interesting “time” question. They say average dreams only last a few seconds, but why do they seem so long when we recall them when we wake up?


182 posted on 05/06/2007 9:27:10 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
"The tin foilers may be partially right."

I consider myself a partial tinfoiler...not so much because I believe in a lot of X-Files phenomenon, but moreso because I don't disbelieve them.

183 posted on 05/07/2007 2:33:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: fanfan
All of these stories suggest that we can pick up premonitions of events that are yet to be.

They suggest nothing of the sort.

What they do suggest is that people are great at injecting themselves into an Important Situation.
184 posted on 05/07/2007 2:35:37 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Cheese . . . milk's leap toward immortality.)
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To: redangus
My late wife told me when we were dating that she was not going to live to 50. We were 19 at the time and her family had a history of long-life on both sides with many living into their 80-90’s. I told her she was mistaken and would be dancing on my grave someday. She died at age 46.

72 for me, or so I dreamed. 32 more years, in other words.

185 posted on 05/07/2007 2:52:51 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: timer
It's a week later and I only NOW found your reply to my post! *gulp* I'm trying to expand my mind to comprehend it ... but that is how that earthquake felt. I also discovered in the Northridge quake that in times of high stress, your eyes will dilate so widely that you will literally see in the dark. That's what happened to me and my husband. We later stopped to wonder, "Hmmm, when did the electricity go out, because I remember the lights were on right afterward because I was looking at spilled things in the middle of the floor ..." Not recalling that it was dark outside, the wee hours, so the lights wouldn't have been on in the first place! There were no lights. I guess the crisis of the moment had triggered our eyes to go into ultra-survival mode and dilate so much that we were seeing like cats. Very interesting, very unexpected.

On I expect a related note (no pun intended), because I know how sound waves travel through water as opposed to air, and because I remember that we are physycally mostly liquid, and because I know that music is infinitely mathematical in its essence (as well as spiritual, which is what makes music literally divine), I think that music has a profound affect on the physical being.

But that's a whole 'nother talk show.

186 posted on 05/12/2007 4:29:05 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Xenalyte
All of these stories suggest that we can pick up premonitions of events that are yet to be.>>>>>

They suggest nothing of the sort.

What they do suggest is that people are great at injecting themselves into an Important Situation.

Perhaps you have never experienced this phenomenon.

In any event, if life exists before birth and after death, as I believe, this kind of communication would make sense.

187 posted on 05/12/2007 4:38:00 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Finny

Again, half of your physical body is WAVES, matter waves; and half particles(fermions = electrons, neutrons, protons). Time is Kinetic Energy is mass is Wave(length) < Particle(velocity)=acceleration; or Wave(length) > Particle(velocity)=deceleration. It is called the wave/particle duality of the principle of complementarity; or the “collapse of the wavefunction” as some physicists call it. I prefer over running matter wave energy in newtons of wave FORCE.

You ONLY feel/sense/detect W>P or deceleration/weight in your sense of touch = over running wave energy. Sight : photon-particle stops at your retina but the over running EM wave energy kicks an electron out of orbit, up the optic nerve to your brain where you actually SEE. Hearing : over running compression wave on elastic eardrum, thru the bones and cochlear nerve, to the brain where you actually HEAR.

So, it is by over running WAVE ENERGY whereby you feel, see, hear, smell...experience the world around you. As to dilating eyes, that may be rods as hyperactive instead of UV, but you get beyond me there.

As to music, google SOUND HEALTH. COM. If you get puget sound, keep trying. Sherry Edwards has mapped out all the frequencies of every body molecule. Just by the sound of your voice over the phone, she knows what’s wrong w/you(by plugging it into her computer)and sends soothing sounds back to massage just the right molecules. You see, music is molecular massage for your body, that’s why it feels so good : musical massage parlor.

In talking to her years ago at a science conference she said : Oh, your F# is weak = pancreas. Puts the headphones on me, twiddles the dials and KA-WHAM, I felt WONDERFUL instantly. She was born w/perfect pitch. Look her up.

Anyway, a couple more hours of spring yardwork to go today. I’ll send you a private post later on as to how time works, wear your physics hat...


188 posted on 05/12/2007 5:44:07 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: timer

Thanks!


189 posted on 05/12/2007 8:38:51 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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