[greyfoxx39]

You know, Coyote, the apologists just refuse to acknowledge that they are debating with those of us who have either "been there, done that" or have spent years dealing with mormons in their communities.

I sometimes think that some of these posts are written in a state of denial.

[FastCoyote]

“You know, Coyote, the apologists just refuse to acknowledge that they are debating with those of us who have either “been there, done that” or have spent years dealing with mormons in their communities.
I sometimes think that some of these posts are written in a state of denial.”

I have lived in Vegas (Mormon country) for 27 years, and now have quite an accumulation of first hand experiences, most of which are just plain disquieting. I currently work for a Jack Mormon, who was bred straight but became so turned of by the disconnect required that he is now 100% atheist (I’m walking him back to agnostic, hopefully). He recently told me, unsolicited, that he would never do business with a Mormon.

So you are quite right about the denial, they spin everything into the accusation that we are bigots without ever answering the questions we raise. I relate my list of stories and encounters as straight as punch (y’all have heard many of them), but they are so bizarre that I am inevitably called a liar. Well here is what I know, one side or the other is composed of world class prevaricators (or charitably the disillusioned).

Now, if I was a world class liar of that order, you’d expect some of the rebuttals to have exposed me by now. But I call Mormons crystal gazers, and nothing comes back - chirp chirp. I ask them to have their church put a Cross on their steeple to show they are Christian, and the answer is chirp chirp. We post a picture of a three dollar bill with Joseph Smith’s signature on it, and we are accused of being agitators (while they avoid admitting their prophet was a charlatan). I ask whether Bishop Mitt Romney will have to explain that he plans on becoming God of a planet where he will have multiple wives and spirit children without number, and I’m called vindictive, for asking the type of question Mitt will have to answer for the next ten years (note, no one denies that’s what Mitt believes). I’ve even offered a thousand dollar bet to anyone who could prove I lied about my stories, but alas, chirp chirp.

I know what I know because I was forced to defend myself numerous times from Mormons - who themselves were at these junctures guilty of thievery, embezzlement, tax evasion (about to turn one in on that), a threat to beat me up for asking for the business books, etc. After a while, you’d have to be nuts not to have studied how they operate and how they encircle and divide out anyone they consider a threat to the hive.

Here’s a thought thread which will help explain why I don’t want a Mormon in the presidency. Harry Reid recruted one Dario Herrera to run for Congress here. Dario was at that time a County Commisioner taking bribes from Michael Galardi (and others) at Cheetah’s topless bar. Of course, Harry was successful in converting Dario to Mormonism, and even now supports Dario as he goes off to the penitentiary at the end of what is called the G-Sting scandal (google it). Mormons all over town knew about Darios corruption, and corruption higher up, and did Jack squat.

But ooops, the tightnit Mormon community is as pure as driven snow.

Been There, Done That, Many Times