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To: xzins
I always thought that it was “through grace ~we are saved through faith, and that not of ourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast.”

I always thought that the supposed "most correct book on earth" (never mind that God, forbid, would ever start pitting one Scripture versus another like Joseph Smith did) said: "We are saved by grace AFTER all you can do."

This kind of grace, then, would never kick in til you've done all you can do. Who qualifies? Point out ONE person besides Jesus Christ who can say He's done everything He could do. (By our sins of omission alone, we all flunk)

861 posted on 05/06/2007 2:15:05 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; xzins

I always thought that it was “through grace ~we are saved through faith, and that not of ourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast.”
I always thought that the supposed “most correct book on earth” (never mind that God, forbid, would ever start pitting one Scripture versus another like Joseph Smith did) said: “We are saved by grace AFTER all you can do.”

This kind of grace, then, would never kick in til you’ve done all you can do. Who qualifies? Point out ONE person besides Jesus Christ who can say He’s done everything He could do. (By our sins of omission alone, we all flunk)

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Than why is there this verse in the Bible

Isa. 62
11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

Philip. 2
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.


867 posted on 05/06/2007 2:30:05 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: Colofornian

“This kind of grace, then, would never kick in til you’ve done all you can do. Who qualifies? Point out ONE person besides Jesus Christ who can say He’s done everything He could do. (By our sins of omission alone, we all flunk)”

That’s why there’s repentance. We all need it.


892 posted on 05/06/2007 4:49:09 PM PDT by tantiboh
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Can I assume that the Gideons are wasting their time placing bibles in hotels and in the hands of soldiers....that no one can be saved by reading the words of salvation contained therein?

Can it be true that the church one attends or does not attend prior to Jesus confronting them matters more that Jesus’ own words?


1,005 posted on 05/07/2007 7:11:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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