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As an Episcopalian, the question of wine or grape juice is superfluous, but part of what Jesus instituted with His disciples was the blood at the Last Supper(the foreshadowing of the wedding feast to come), and the wine is of this fashion which He started His ministry with at the wedding feast. Besides, He said it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles the man.

I am reminded of the analogies regarding the wine press and the fruit of the vine and the vineyard parables ... Jesus turned water into wine, not wine into water. When the life is in the blood, it isn’t about the water content, it is about the life carrying components.

Transubstantiation might be construed to infer water is fully efficacious in the Eucharist, but then wouldn’t Jesus have changed wine somewhere into water instead of water into wine to complete the wedding festivities?

I am of the school which believes the wedding miracle was the opening of His ministry to reach culmination with Gesthemane. He started His witness to men with water into wine and brought it to a close with sweating as it were great drops of His own blood much the way a winepress crushes out the fluid of the grape for transformation into wine. Then He was crucified for us. Using water in the Eucharist would be rather anemic, not to mention a confusion when baptism in water is in the salvation transformation equation.

I’m just a simple girl, FReeper pal. Grape juice, wine, or water - represents the precious Blood of our Savior which was shed for us sinners. Jesus Christ paid the price. When I used to be a Baptist we had Communion about once a month at an evening service. I am happy that the LDS Church has it every Sunday. I think it’s neat that the Catholics celebrate the eucharist every chance they get.

As an Episcopalian, the question of wine or grape juice is superfluous,

Well, I hate to kick a guy when he is down, but the Eucharist is a principle staple of Episcopalian ritual and I suspect that guys like Vicky Gene Robinson take the Eucharist at least every week and it does not appear that taking the Eucharist for him and for millions of other Episcopalians has been in any way effective in keeping him or his church from falling into the gravest of errors.

So when you start arguing that something like an Episcopalian Eucharist "offered by those in Apostolic Authority" might just turn a Mormon from the error of his ways, I have to laugh. Heck apparently a majority of those in your Church who carry with them this so-called "Apostolic Authority" have fallen into apostasy themselves. So how can we expect that those apostates can use their authroized eucharistic ritual to turn a budding Mormon from the error of his ways?

The fact of the matter is that despite the fact that your church gives the Eucharist to its members every week, your church is in just as much of a state of apostasy as the Mormons.