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To: FastCoyote

“If that were true, then they would believe it possible for Orthodox Christians to go to heaven.”

FC, we have explained this time and time again. You have failed to hear us.

We believe that the Celestial Kingdom - what you refer to as “heaven” - is attainable to EVERYBODY who follows Christ as best as they know how. Be that person Mormon, Orthodox Christian, Muslim, or pagan Bushman.

God judges us according to the desires of our hearts, not the knowledge of our minds.


2,089 posted on 05/10/2007 9:04:55 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh; FastCoyote
We believe that the Celestial Kingdom - what you refer to as “heaven” - is attainable to EVERYBODY who follows Christ as best as they know how. Be that person Mormon, Orthodox Christian, Muslim, or pagan Bushman.

"attainable to EVERYBODY who follows Christ as best as they know how". Did you leave something out of this phrase?

If not,what is the need for the baptism and other ordinances done by mormons for the dead? Is it not true that if one were not to take part in these ordinances while living they MUST accept them in the afterlife in order to enter the CK, or Heaven"?

It has been stated many times by apologists that this acceptance is a "choice" given to the dead, but the caveat "the spirit cannot enter the celestial kingdom unless they make the correct 'choice' and accept those ordinances" is not included in those statements.

As stryker would say, "Sheesh"

2,194 posted on 05/11/2007 9:20:01 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: tantiboh

Christians do not believe that Muslims will go to be with God.

Islam is an evil cult. There is no richness of God’s love in it. It is a system of rules and hatred that is intent on controlling its congregants and using them to further the evil of Islam. Muslims are called to kill those who do not believe in Allah. Allah is NOT another name for God. Belief in Allah is worshipping the devil.

Mohammed was sly and deceitful when he invented this system by co-opting Adam, Abraham, Jesus... they are all considered PROPHETS of Islam.

Islam does not recognize Jesus as God’s Son. If you do NOT accept Jesus as God’s Son and Savior, you are NOT saved by God. It is only through the blood of Christ that Christians are redeemed and can live with the Lord in Heaven.

If Mormonism believes that ANY path other than that through Christ can lead man to God, then it is patently FALSE. God is VERY specific about why faith in Jesus is necessary for salvation.


2,209 posted on 05/11/2007 1:04:15 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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