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To: Sherman Logan

No one knows for sure what happened at Mt Meadows; pure speculation.

“only the Mormons provokes massive popular resistance” - You forgot about the Catholics.


13 posted on 05/04/2007 6:02:50 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"Anyone who wouldn't vote for someone just because they are a Mormon is a loon."

How many Mormons are voting for Romney just because he is a Mormon? Are they "loons" also?

If the shoe fits...

23 posted on 05/04/2007 6:10:23 AM PDT by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Saundra Duffy
No one knows for sure what happened at Mt Meadows; pure speculation.

Actually there were survivors, a trial and court records were made. We may not have All the details - same as any other crime of the 19th century - but we do know the basics. People alive today have no responsibility for the actions of people over a hundred years ago however.

26 posted on 05/04/2007 6:11:56 AM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

We know enough about what happened at MM to know that Mormons talked the emigrants into surrendering and then gunned them down on signal. In the long history of America perhaps the most despicable and dishonorable event.

You see, the Mormons made the mistake of sparing some of the children under eight, who later gave testimony.

About the only thing we don’t know for sure about MM is whether B. Young specifically ordered it or not.

Re: Catholics. I should have located the issue more specifically to the frontier, since most anti-Catholic sentiment was in the cities and was as much anti-Irish and economic as it was religious.

Even so, I don’t recall any “extermination orders” or massive mililtia actions or expulsions of Catholics from entire states.


89 posted on 05/04/2007 7:22:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"“only the Mormons provokes massive popular resistance” - You forgot about the Catholics."

I think you will find that there is more negativity and "rejection" directed at evangelicals than any other religious group. We're regularly called "Bible-thumpers" and "snake-handlers" and American "Taliban." I don't recall hearing this kind of description of either Mormans or Catholics. The evangelicals self-description as "Fundamentalists" which was coined over a 100 years ago to describe the importance of the "fundamentals" of the faith (Divinity of Christ, his virgin birth, his ressurection, the human condition of sinfulness, God as Creator, etc.), now is widely used to describe beheaders and torturers. How sweet.

99 posted on 05/04/2007 7:34:15 AM PDT by cookcounty (No journalist ever won a prize for reporting the facts. --Telling big stories? Now that's a hit.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Whoa, right there!

I live in Las Vegas, and it's not far from here.

I've visited the massacre site.

I know the history.

There were investigations post-massacre, and people leaked the story afterwards--some of the younger children, who were forcibly adopted into Mormon families, spoke of it, and there was a federal investigation. The history is known. Don't try to throw smoke over bloody history.

For those of you who don't live in the area, I think you might want to know this: The plaques that are replaced there at regular intervals, commemorating the event, are vandalized by Mormons who do not want the rest of us to know what they say. They can't keep a plaque on the Mountain Meadows Massacre site for very long.

Whole families--including women and very young children--were attacked...and wiped out.

I didn't raise this issue, but when I see historical revisionism rear its ugly head, it will not go uncorrected and unchallenged.

There. Truth is out, a small piece at a time.

Sauron

265 posted on 05/04/2007 12:31:41 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Why won’t they allow excavation and a search of the site if nothing happened?


938 posted on 05/06/2007 9:15:19 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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