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To: sevenbak

“If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?” - Merchant of Venice

I have no doubt many of the things I’ve said on these threads are painful. But most of us are criticizing Mormonism out of a sense of self preservation rather than vindictiveness.

It isn’t your lifestyle that has us upset, nor that part of Mormonism that is Judeo Christian. Instead, it is the danger that comes from your doctrine of making gods of men and the effect that has on Mormons placed in positions of power. I believe Harry Reid is an example of such excess, but he is not the only one like that I have encountered.

Moreover, because of the disconnect Mormonism has to maintain between preserving the charlatanism of Joseph Smith as divine truth against historical reality (for example, a lack of any archaeological foundation to the BOM, and Joseph Smith’s documented grifter background), I have found Mormons to be unstable under stress and insular, retreating into the hive when challenged. Undesireable traits in a leader.

In general, I wouldn’t care, except that living in Las Vegas I have occasion to deal with powerful Mormons and have no desire to be crushed. This follows now to the presidential level, where it is clear Mitt is a Trojan horse for Mormon power interests. Mitt could well be a god among men, and I would never vote for him. A sizeable number of Christians and Jews will feel this way as well by election day, anywhere from 3 to 10 percent of the electorate, making Romney’s election nigh impossible.

“If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?”

I have seen Mormon revenge before and it isn’t pretty - I can only imagine what it would be like at the presidential level. As far as wronging you, the truth can not cause a sane person to bleed, nor is it a poison that will cause you to die, nor can the truth that Joseph Smith was a charlatan be anything less than liberating to the soul. But I can well believe telling the truth can evoke revenge.


1,219 posted on 05/08/2007 7:30:07 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote; sevenbak
...because of the disconnect Mormonism has to maintain between preserving the charlatanism of Joseph Smith as divine truth against historical reality (for example, a lack of any archaeological foundation to the BOM, and Joseph Smith’s documented grifter background)...

Not to mention no Jewish DNA in Native Americans.

Can't LDS at least acknowledge that if they were a CSI investigator this would be the coldest of any cold case?

Men lie. DNA doesn't.

1,244 posted on 05/08/2007 9:03:22 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: FastCoyote
OK, perhaps the revenge part of Shylock’s speech is and shouldn’t be relevant here. But ya can’t mess with Will!
1,410 posted on 05/08/2007 11:38:18 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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