A person who was Mormon alone with the Utes did this you are trying a backhanded smear about the Mormons of that time and make something of the 9\11 date
Nothing backhanded about it. The history is reasonably clear that most if not all of the killing was done by Mormons organized into their official militia groups and under the command of the local church leaders.
The only major issue at dispute about what happened is to what extent the massacre was specifically ordered by Brigham Young, or indeed whether he ordered the locals to let the emigrants pass, but too late. There is no doubt at all that he and other church leaders used extremely violent rhetoric in the weeks and months before the massacre that played at least a major role in what happened.
And of course the Mormons had excellent reason to be paranoid and revengeful. But nothing justifies accepting the surrender of your enemies on promise of sparing their lives, then massacring them, including women and all children above eight years in age. Nothing.
The Utes later claimed they just watched the massacre and looted a little, but then they would say that, wouldn’t they?
I don’t hold this against the Mormons of today, any more than I bear a grudge against French Catholics for St. Bartholomew’s, against Anglicans for the Penal Laws, or indeed against Jews for the murder of Christ.
Oh resty, even the Church admits that John D. Lee acted along with about 50 other Mormons and at least two that were his commanders - the PIUTES were only icing on the cake.
Please don’t say things that can be proven false. It hurts your position
Please, just because only 1 guy ever was punished for it, Young jr. does not mean he was only one involved, and his claims always were that he was acting on orders from the church.
I’m not backhand smearing the Mormon’s, historical facts don’t like.
I don’t hold the Mormons of today guilty for the sins of their ancestors, and clearly stated as much. However it does not excuse the actions, when one tries to claim Mormons were simply victims of persecution in their early days, they did a bit of sinning as well.