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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: greyfoxx39
Coyote, I remember "talks" in mormon sacrament meeting when I was a youngster. One in particular stuck with me. It related how "A young couple traveled many miles to the SLC temple to be married, and as they tried to enter, they were turned away. The gatekeeper stated, 'I had a burning in my bosom that they were unworthy and not to be allowed in.' Then, it was discovered that the man had a Negro great, great grandfather. The Spirit can detect one ounce of Negro blood."

This is the attitude that members in the 50's-60's grew up with.

It wasn't just prevalent. It was DOCTRINE until 1978. PEOPLE take heed, in 1978 Mitt was already a father. He was an adult man and believed in the teaching that a drop of "black" blood was enough to exclude men of color from holding the priesthood! Mitt firmly supported this doctrine, and so did I. I however have since repented. The LDS Chruch never repented.....they just got a new "feel good" politically expedient revelation from the prophet.

No apology, no regret....no statement that we were wrong, but just a new 'revelation' that God now thinks it is okey-dokey for Black men to be treated equally.

Of course other millions of people treated people of African descent dispicably. Those organization recognized they were in error and have changed, but Mormonism can't do the same because they believe it was commanded of God - to Mormonism, God has now simply changed his mind.

( And I thought God never changes - oops just another difference between Christianity/Judaism and Mormonism.)

441 posted on 05/05/2007 8:08:22 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: JCEccles
Evangelicals and liberals agree do on one thing: they despise Mormons. Lying on that common bed of bigotry they are kissing and cuddling like long lost lovers.

And you think that statement will HELP your case? I thought you were a lawyer?

442 posted on 05/05/2007 8:11:47 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: greyfoxx39; All

OK, I just got pinged here, give me a bit to read from the top and catch up while making comments, OK?


443 posted on 05/05/2007 8:14:39 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: greyfoxx39

Woops sorry!


444 posted on 05/05/2007 8:15:36 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

You wouldn’t have known from the handle, just as I don’t from yours, lol.


445 posted on 05/05/2007 8:18:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: FastCoyote; needlenose_neely; All
The joint dynamics of joint liberal-evangelical anti-LDS bigotry are fascinating.

Liberals despise and fear Mormons because Mormons teach and live values that are antithetical to liberalism's most treasured beliefs.

More particularly, Mormons enrage liberals because Mormons 1) reject the notion of an overarching all-powerful nanny state that encourages and inculcates government dependence, 2) strongly support traditional nuclear mom & pop families comprising more than the government-allotted 2.0 children, 3) believe in thrift, hard work, and personal responsibility, 4) reject liberalism's Roe v. Wade culture of death along with its logical extensions such as gay marriage, 5) believe in a strong national defense, and 6) claim to be a Christian church and believe in the actual physical crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, some 2000 years ago which, as every liberal knows is perhaps the most dangerous and anti-progressive belief ever to insinuate itself into human consciousness.

Now, you would think that evangelicals would welcome Mormons as political allies for the very same reasons that the liberals reject them. You'd be wrong. Evangelicals, many of whom believe the cosmos and world did not exist a little over 6000 years ago, reject Mormons because they have some "weird" beliefs.

Whether Romney wins or loses, his candidacy is good for America because it is shining a bright light in neglected and dark places in the souls of liberals and evangelicals alike.

446 posted on 05/05/2007 8:19:11 AM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: P-Marlowe

I would again point out that any person who comes to believe in the Jesus of the New Testament through reading the words of His gospel writers has come to the real Jesus Christ.

The Mormons DO use the New Testament as one of their many books. Those who come to believe in Jesus via THAT route are turning to the real Jesus.

All the doctrine they’ll later be taught is wrong, but maybe every now and then some of them come to realize that....wouldn’t you agree?


447 posted on 05/05/2007 8:20:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: FastCoyote; NittanyLion
"Or are your moral convictions the consistency of the Pillsbury Doughboy?"

Yes, because I like Mormons, my morals are the consistency of a Pillsbury doughboy. /sarcasm

I pinged Nittany Lion whose original comment I agreed with. Maybe he'll have more time to respond to your ridiculous post.

448 posted on 05/05/2007 8:26:51 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney for President '08)
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To: needlenose_neely

I don’t agree. Bigotry still exists, just not usually where the Liberals find it.


449 posted on 05/05/2007 8:29:56 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney for President '08)
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To: Netizen
“I would like to see each state be able to make its own law with regard to abortion.

Are you sure this isn't a 10th Amendnent stance. Roe v Wade should have never been heard, let alone ruled on by the SCOTUS. It (state laws against murder), is outside their authority.
450 posted on 05/05/2007 8:32:53 AM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: JCEccles
Now, you would think that evangelicals would welcome Mormons as political allies for the very same reasons that the liberals reject them.
In most cases that is what is the reality. However, on theological issues evangelical Christians challenge and oppose the fantastic claims of Mormonism by critical thinking and analytical scrutiny for validity of truth. Unfortunately, most Mormons cannot separate the two, and take it personally that those challenges is "persecution", "hate", "bigotry" and all the other buzzwords designed to elicit an emotional appeal for the victims role which so many Mormons play so well.

You'd be wrong. Evangelicals, many of whom believe the cosmos and world did not exist a little over 6000 years ago, reject Mormons because they have some "weird" beliefs.

No, we do not reject "Mormons"(individual people), we reject Mormonism(the religion), a big difference. So please try refrain from misrepresenting the facts.

We reject Mormonism as it is full of false doctrines that are not Christian, are not Biblical and in fact are anti-Christian and anti-Biblical, and not because their are "weird"(though some fall into that category) but reject them because they are false.

Whether Romney wins or loses, his candidacy is good for America because it is shining a bright light in neglected and dark places in the souls of liberals and evangelicals alike.

Romney's candidacy has been good because it has stimulated debate over the validity for truth in the incredible claims of Mormonism, and is causing many Christians to be motivated to study to be certain of what they believe and why they believe it, and to stand for the truth in the face of counterfeits.

451 posted on 05/05/2007 8:35:09 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: needlenose_neely

“Praying to a false god with people of other faith’s means nothing”

I pray to my Heavenly Father in the Name of Jesus Christ, my Savior and the Holy Ghost is my guide.

I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You can keep saying the same things over and over but it doesn’t change a thing. I love my Church and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.


452 posted on 05/05/2007 8:36:25 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: JRochelle
“Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric.”

That is a damn lie!

I have attended church all my life, the only church who was ever disparaged in any service I have ever attended was the Baptist church.

You are so misinformed its ridiculous.


I hate to burst your bubble, but I have been to such services, and I was specifically invited because I was a Mormon and a teenager.

They apparently thought I would not have the guts to respond.

They were wrong, and so are you.

SD did not say "every sunday at every church", she said "Sunday after Sunday", and "all denominations" so if on many Sundays somebody does it, she is dead on.

Prove it does not happen...
453 posted on 05/05/2007 8:36:38 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: antisocial

I was raised in Missouri as a Southern Baptist. Moved to California where I continued to attend Southern Baptist Church. One day a member of a Baptist Church I was attending - we were discussing abortion (I’m pro life) and this Southern Baptist gentleman said and I quote: “Well, I don’t want those Black girls over in Oakland having a bunch of babies for me to support; that’s why I’m for abortion.”

Of course, I know there are lots and lots of good southern evangelicals. I just think it’s wrong for them to throw stones at Mitt Romney when they have logs in their eyes. Know what I mean?


454 posted on 05/05/2007 8:41:29 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
“Praying to a false god with people of other faith’s means nothing”

I pray to my Heavenly Father in the Name of Jesus Christ, my Savior and the Holy Ghost is my guide.

The Mormon version of heavenly father, jesus and holy ghost is a false one, all having been separate created beings, whereas the God of the Bible and Christianity is un-created, Eternal, Infinite, Self Consisting, with no beginning and no end.

The God of the Bible and Christianity condemns the worship of a false god for which eternity in outer darkness is the waiting reality for those who do worship a false god or gods such as in Mormonism.

455 posted on 05/05/2007 8:44:48 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: needlenose_neely

Jesus Christ is my Lord and personal Savior. Heavenly Father sent His only Son to die for my sins and I love Him. The Holy Ghost confirms this in my heart.

Have a great day.

I am proud to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.


456 posted on 05/05/2007 8:45:04 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: Afronaut
"Anyone who wouldn't vote for someone just because they are a Mormon is a loon."

How many Mormons are voting for Romney just because he is a Mormon? Are they "loons" also?

If the shoe fits...


As Mormon, let me answer this, Yes.

I will not vote for someone just because he is a Mormon.

Give me a man who lives his religion faitfully regardless of his denomination over a man of my religion ho lives it casually any day.

My problms with Mitt, speaking as a Mormon, are his politics, as for me, I like Fred Thompson.

But the "Stuff" that gets slung on any "Mitt" therad gets me going gecause people keep saying things like "Mormons believe...", "Mormons are ...", and "Mormons are not Christian..."

And all that "stuff" is laid at my doorstep because I am a Mormon, so I must protest being painted as a dastardly cultist bent on evil and mayhem. It gets old and I get cranky after some one keeps trying to tell me "You do to believe that now sit down and let me finish painitng you with tar..." /Rant
457 posted on 05/05/2007 8:48:30 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Saundra Duffy
Have they told you about Kolob yet?

I bet there are a lot of things they have not told you.

For instance, I bet they have not told you that Joseph Smith took to himself "wives" who were already married to other men. The case of Tina Huntington being one that is well known and documented.

Do you believe a "prophet" who said he was greater than Jesus Christ would be told by God to take to himself a wife who was already married to another man?

What did Jesus say in the Bible about adultery?

What does Paul say about adulterers not entering the Kingdom of God?

458 posted on 05/05/2007 9:02:57 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: Saundra Duffy
I love my Church and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

What did he save you from? Just death?

459 posted on 05/05/2007 9:14:54 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am proud to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Has your church taught you that pride is the sin that leads to all other sins. Pride separates you from God. Humility is the trait that Christ honored.

460 posted on 05/05/2007 9:16:49 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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