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To: FastCoyote; needlenose_neely; All
The joint dynamics of joint liberal-evangelical anti-LDS bigotry are fascinating.

Liberals despise and fear Mormons because Mormons teach and live values that are antithetical to liberalism's most treasured beliefs.

More particularly, Mormons enrage liberals because Mormons 1) reject the notion of an overarching all-powerful nanny state that encourages and inculcates government dependence, 2) strongly support traditional nuclear mom & pop families comprising more than the government-allotted 2.0 children, 3) believe in thrift, hard work, and personal responsibility, 4) reject liberalism's Roe v. Wade culture of death along with its logical extensions such as gay marriage, 5) believe in a strong national defense, and 6) claim to be a Christian church and believe in the actual physical crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, some 2000 years ago which, as every liberal knows is perhaps the most dangerous and anti-progressive belief ever to insinuate itself into human consciousness.

Now, you would think that evangelicals would welcome Mormons as political allies for the very same reasons that the liberals reject them. You'd be wrong. Evangelicals, many of whom believe the cosmos and world did not exist a little over 6000 years ago, reject Mormons because they have some "weird" beliefs.

Whether Romney wins or loses, his candidacy is good for America because it is shining a bright light in neglected and dark places in the souls of liberals and evangelicals alike.

446 posted on 05/05/2007 8:19:11 AM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: JCEccles
Now, you would think that evangelicals would welcome Mormons as political allies for the very same reasons that the liberals reject them.
In most cases that is what is the reality. However, on theological issues evangelical Christians challenge and oppose the fantastic claims of Mormonism by critical thinking and analytical scrutiny for validity of truth. Unfortunately, most Mormons cannot separate the two, and take it personally that those challenges is "persecution", "hate", "bigotry" and all the other buzzwords designed to elicit an emotional appeal for the victims role which so many Mormons play so well.

You'd be wrong. Evangelicals, many of whom believe the cosmos and world did not exist a little over 6000 years ago, reject Mormons because they have some "weird" beliefs.

No, we do not reject "Mormons"(individual people), we reject Mormonism(the religion), a big difference. So please try refrain from misrepresenting the facts.

We reject Mormonism as it is full of false doctrines that are not Christian, are not Biblical and in fact are anti-Christian and anti-Biblical, and not because their are "weird"(though some fall into that category) but reject them because they are false.

Whether Romney wins or loses, his candidacy is good for America because it is shining a bright light in neglected and dark places in the souls of liberals and evangelicals alike.

Romney's candidacy has been good because it has stimulated debate over the validity for truth in the incredible claims of Mormonism, and is causing many Christians to be motivated to study to be certain of what they believe and why they believe it, and to stand for the truth in the face of counterfeits.

451 posted on 05/05/2007 8:35:09 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: JCEccles

“Now, you would think that evangelicals would welcome Mormons as political allies for the very same reasons that the liberals reject them. You’d be wrong. Evangelicals, many of whom believe the cosmos and world did not exist a little over 6000 years ago, reject Mormons because they have some “weird” beliefs. “

The 6000 year thing IS a weird belief and isn’t the doctrine of any major denomination I know of. Seems Christians reject things over time that that have found flat out wrong (like the world is flat), Mormons appear to offer a new Revelation and then pretend nothing happened.

I am a Lutheran - good old Martin was a beer drinking good old boy who besides rocking the world and starting a major protestant war was also a bit of a semite. BUT HE WASN’T GOD AND HE WASN’T A PROPHET!!! So I’m happy to reject his failings. How’s about you rejecting Joseph Smith’s failings. Oh, that’s right, if some of his grifting turns out to be true, the whole foundation of Mormonism collapses. That’s why you have to defend Joseph to the Death, no matter how much evidence of craziness is presented.


479 posted on 05/05/2007 10:52:57 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: JCEccles; greyfoxx39
the government-allotted 2.0 children

The fact that you believe that is hysterical. Uncle Sam never consulted me about my family planning, when I was going to get pregnant, how many pregnancies I wanted, how many children were in the target number as a family.

513 posted on 05/05/2007 12:19:22 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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