Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
Oh geeze, that will probably be next!
Puleeze.
IMHO, FR is pretty good gauge of the mood of the base. In 2000, 2002, 2004, people united to fight the Dems and their MSM allies and were optimistic.
In 2006, and even 2005, you could see the division and negativity come in as the negative posts against Republicans, especially the Congressional party, just got worse. There were a lot of people in the "teach 'em a lesson" camp who thought losing would be a good strategy.
What I've seen so far this year is lots of pot shots at the other guy's candidates and lots of declarations about who someone won't vote for. It doesn't give me a lot of optimism about being unified enough to fight an election with an unpopular Republican in the White House.
And I'm not sure anyone "understands" the primary "process" for 2008. You do understand it's being radically overhauled? There really isn't going to be a "process" anymore - it's all going to be over in about a month.
I guess you weren't listening when I was going over the "vulnerability to deception" argument. If a person is vulnerable to MAJOR deceptions in the most important aspect of his life--his faith, what questions does that raise about discernment issues in other areas of his faith?
I mean it's simple. Do I want an astute, perceptive "can't pull one over on me" president in an age of terrorism? I mean, do I really have to drag out a laundry list of what this man most firmly believes & subscribes to at his most in-depth core? (I think Fast Coyote had a short but good list this week on another thread of what he said "wacky Mormons" believe...maybe he can pull it out & inject it into this thread).
I mean you read a list like the one Fast Coyote had & you think, "Wow! How was anyone able to pull the wool over the eyes of folks on these things?"
Also you referred to "hurdles" I've raised...well, if you go back & read over those carefully you'll note that most of them have a question mark at the end--meaning that they are open questions. (They weren't framed in dogmatic statements).
Finally, let's assume we put in place an LDS or a Scientology or a JW prez. Let's just say 2009-2012 is a slump, draught phase for terrorism and national and world crises. Prayer over major incidents is less of an issue. Figuring out ("reading") Islamic threats peters out. "Fitness" on these matters becomes a non-issue. What bearing would, say, a Scientologist or JW or LDS president have upon this nation?
Well, as secondary concerns, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
AFTER getting in office (certainly not necessarily before), Scientology or JWism or LDSism would be plastered in a positive way all over the media. The Scientology or Watchtower or SLC spin machines would launch into full cycle. Capitalization would be the operative word.
By 2012, this nation would greatly accelerate membership in whatever cult was given access to the White House. And that, doesn't simply breed national consequences, but eternal ones.
The more LDS you have who believe that very few will actually wind up permanently in hell, then the more spiritual surprises will arise. [LDS post-world scenario is that just about all folks will eventually go into one of three degrees of heaven, even if a bunch of folks make this "stop-off" at a place call 666 Mockingbird Lane, otherwise known as "Spirit Prison." It's "Spirit Prison" where supposedly the folks baptized by proxy get a "second chance."]
If you don't believe this to be true, then you do not know what the SLC or Scientology HQ spin machines are capable of.
You’re welcome.
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Well, it's been a slice but I gotta go.
Well I agree w/Pan_Yans Wife: You act as if all is lost. Don’t you have any faith in the primary elections and their purpose? You do understand the process of electing a president works, don’t you?
You wanna remind me again how many candidates entered into the Fox debate? You call that unity?
The primaries are all about a diversity of candidates. A party on the other hand is all about uniting behind that candidate.
Having said that, I am a Christian first, identity-wise, and a Republican another dimension removed.
I am not going to run the American flag thru a party sword just for the sake of unity over a bad candidate. We all need to listen very, very carefully to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
Well said.
I meant to adress both you and the one I addressed in #326.
You are acting as if the American public does not have a learning curve ahead of them before they punch the ballots. You also are ignoring the pull that grass-roots efforts have in an election. I am not willing to just throw in the towel today... we have many more months ahead of us.
You cannot even determine today who the Democratic nominee will be. Why do you think you should be able to determine who the Republican nominee will be?
Trying to gauge this far out how an election will be is insanity.
In the 2006 election, Limbaugh and even the President thought that the base was going to be there supporting like they always do. But, that didn’t happen. WHY? Because the power rests with the people who vote.
In the end, anything can happen. The last two presidential elections should remind us of that.
I hope you're right that the party will unify after the primaries. If the Dem candidate is Hillary, that would be a powerful unifying device no matter who our candidate is. Even Edwards or Gore would probably do it too.
G'day.
It would add some zing to the campaign which has been sorely lacking thus far!
Now, find for me a Mormon with Eric Cartman magic underwear.
And that somehow changes history and fact regarding Joseph Smith, his con-artist and glass looking ways? Not to mention a lengthy list of other things?
It's not an equation but a similarity so you're use of the word "equate" is a red herring.
Who’s the guy? Is that Gov Boggs?
When Ezra Taft Benson was Sec. of Agriculture under President Eisenhower, (later was president and prophet of LDS Church) upon starting his service in this office, he suggested starting each cabinet meeting with a prayer. President Eisenhower agreed to the suggestion and kept the prayer as the opening event to every cabinet meeting during his administration.
I've never seen them in a Catholic bookstore either, but I have seen them in several evangelical themed bookstores.
How do you know what Mitt Romney THINKS? I don’t think he has any ill feelings toward anyone, except maybe the jihadists.
Carvile, Begala, Ickes, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberpoop, all the assorted MSM lackeys of the Clinton campaign will be pushing that message...with the electorate as closely divided as it is, you want to bet that there won't be enough sheeple who swallow it to swing the election? I don't.
Do you think they feel the same way about Harry Reid? Because of Reid, this is the perfect time for Romney to run, it makes any attempt to throw Mormonism at Mitt backfire in their faces.
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