Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
Romney cannot win against Hillary. It is a specious question.
The racist past of Mormonism hasn’t come out yet, his flip flopping, the alienation of the Southern States....it just isn’t going to happen. If we put Romney in as our nominee, we’ve lost already.
We MUST find a better candidate! Hunter or Thompson, even Huckabee, or T Thompson have a better chance against Hillary. They come to the race with less baggage.
Look in the general election there will be two people to choose from. Any man who gets our nomination will gain name recognition... we don’t need to worry about it now.
“Suffice it to say, that rumor is derived from a single out-of-context (probably mis-transcribed) quote from Brigham Young,”
So, divinely inspired Prophet Young either was “mistranscribed” or was “misinterpreted”. For a bunch of holy guys they sure left a string of goobered up inspiration in need of corrective revelations.
The racist past of Mormonism hasn’t come out yet, his flip flopping, the alienation of the Southern States....it just isn’t going to happen. If we put Romney in as our nominee, we’ve lost already.
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....than you must not receive the word of Al Sharpton and he is flying to your city tomorrow to talk to the Elders!
“Can you honestly tell me you would rather have hillary appoint supreme court nominees than Romney. “
I’m just telling you a fact - millions of Christians will stay home with a Romney presidential campaign, myself included. Don’t care if it makes sense or not to outsiders, that is just how strong the objection to Mormon doctrine is. You might as well run a Scientologist like Tom Cruise.
Back in the early seventies, my college roommmate and his wife came down to B'ham, AL to visit me and my young wife and little son. He and I had made quite a path through our college town, yet he showed up a different man!
He shared the story of his being born again ... and I saw this new man before me in tremendous contrast to the man I had raised so much cain with. I was convicted in my heart that I needed whatever it was that had changed my friend. My friend spent the evening resaying the same thing, that God has made promises to do certain things if we call upon His name and profess our trust in Jesus Christ. I was convinced God would not lie and my friend showed to me the promises in scripture ... John 3:16 and following.
That same night, in the pleasant darkness of the bedroom with my wife asleep beside me, I whispered to Jesus that I wanted be be saved from the destiny I had established by my living. He saved me then and there, in the quietude of that bedroom.
Now, there was one scripture which magnified in my mind which my friend had shared with me, that I should present myself for baptism as a means to be in His resurrection and as a witness before others that I had turned from my way to His way. So, I traveled up to Tennessee where the preacher who brought my friend to Christ was preaching and when the invitation was given, I fairly ran forward. When I was standing in the Baptismal font about to be dunked, Preacher Bill paused and said, "I think you have something to say now. Do you want to speak?" I stated loud and clear that if we will not recognized Christ before men we cannot expect Him to recognize us in Heaven, that I was here in the water to represent my trust in Him before men.
I was shoved under the water and raised to newness of life that has taken the Lord decades to manifest in me as His witness to others that His promises are kept even in a man like me for all to see. I stand upon His promises for He has shown His fidelity even when I failed to call upon Him.
He has performed miracles in my life which I would never have thought possible as the man I was before being born again. But the miracles are not the crucial reality, the promise that God is and is a rewarder of them who diligently seek Him, that is the essence ... He is not a liar, so He will keep His promises to you or to me. He is able ...
I remember the first missionary lesson. I said, “Go ahead, boys, but I can tell you right now, I can never be good enough to be a Mormon!” I told them about my former experiences.
They put these little paper cups upside down on the postum table and they said these represent the other churches; they all have some of the truth. The Baptists believe in baptism by immersion (we believe that too); the Pentecostals believe in speaking in tongues (we believe that too so long as there’s an interpreter); the Catholics believe in the Priesthood coming from the original Apostles (we believe that too); some churches believe in evangelical outreach (we believe that too); some churches believe that Jesus Christ is divine (we believe that too); some churches believe the Holy Ghost was sent by Jesus as He promised (we believe that too); other churches believe in keeping the Sabbath day holy (we believe that too); some believe in paying a full tithe (we believe that too).
Anyway, next thing I noticed is that members of the Church have this certain look about them that’s different. There’s a shining light in the eyes. I noticed it the first time I attended Sacrament meeting.
Then I remembered something my Mom told me when she was with pro-lifers in Anchorage Alaska. There were lots of Mormons in the pro-life group and my Mom had a lot of affection and admiration and appreciation for them and she told me that she felt the Holy Ghost when a pro-life Mormon friend prayed with her.
After I was baptized, I suddenly had to have emergency surgery; there I was on a gourney in a hallway at Kaiser Hospital and my home teacher and a Missionary showed up and gave me a Blessing. I never knew about the power of the Melchizedek Priesthood. I get all emotional about this and the naysayers jump on that to accuse us of emotionalism. Suffice it to say, I came through the surgery and am grateful to Heavenly Father for having mercy on me in my time of need (not that I deserve it, mind you).
I feel sad because I saw LDS Missionaries in Belize; I had seen LDS Missionaries here and there but I never knew what they were doing and I had been told to avoid them because they were full of the devil. My heart now is full of love and respect for those guys. My heros! I love our Church so much.
It won't sit well with either side. I hear the Church is now stating some ridiculous claim about 1965, like they actually changed their posistion then instead of in 1978.
In 1978, Mitt was 30 years old. He had served a two year mission and was in his Ward leadership...it's just not going to play well.
I got dunked in 2000.
Hallelujah!
well that is a rumor but that is nothing new from the drive bye media...
I love watching the spin going thank God the Church has a fix timeline so no matter what the detractors try to do when there is a firm foundation it can’t be shaken!
Praise the Lord!
“For a bunch of holy guys they sure left a string of goobered up inspiration in need of corrective revelations.”
If prophets were infallible, then Joseph Smith wouldn’t have lost the Book of Lehi. Prophets are men, and imperfect.
That’s why we’re invited to confirm what they say with the Lord.
Here is an article that comes to bear on the point; it addresses the fallibility of even inspired leaders: http://www.jefflindsay.com/fallible.shtml
We are all here to learn how to be better - even prophets. Moses made mistakes; Abraham made mistakes; Joseph Smith and Brigham Young made mistakes. Where possible, they rectified them.
In short, the LDS Church is a university for life. Baptism is matriculation, not graduation. And even the leaders struggle to get A’s.
CC, you might be interested in the article as well, given some of your past experiences with an LDS bishop. About 3/4 of the way down, the author talks about his time as a bishop.
Romney says he wept when he learned of the overturning of the “rule” against black men in the Priesthood.
Thank you MHGinTN, that was moving and I thank you for sharing it and it is true the Lord does keep his promise when we change our ways to follow him!
Thanks for sharing.
Don’t you sometimes feel sorry for Bishops? They don’t get paid; they help bear our burdens; do they get much sleep?
Sandra, you didn’t answer my question. Is Jesus the Son of God? Or is he the brother of Satan?
Do you give pro-Baptist talks when you preach to the men and women in your assembly?
Is Satan the son of God?
“I got dunked in 2000.”
Ah, just about the time I was sweltering in the Roman summer and my second - and favorite - companion became my seventh companion. We taught Alessandro, and he joined in three weeks. We baptized an Iranian man in secret, and were driving an hour and a half three times a week to a quaint little mountainside village to teach Stefano. The highpoint of my mission!
Resty, since you have obliquely raised the issue or living/following the Lord, allow me to add that Jesus paid the ransom due for ALL man’s sin, even those sins that happen AFTER we are born again. It didn’t take long for me to learn that tidbit though it took some time for me to realize that TRUTH in my living.
Yes, we feel the same way. See how it works?
I noticed you didn't amend your orignial vanity that started this thread, by adding the apology.
"I probably need to apologize for my piece which is somewhat hostile and judgmental. (I am such a worm.)", Saundra Duffy.
Why is that? Do you not feel that you have maligned others on this thread?
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