Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
You have no idea what was standard practice in my non-Utah ward more than 40 years ago.
Well, actually there are for reconcilation at the end of the year for tithing settlement. We also receive the statements from the ward clerk once a year sometime in January or February. However, you are correct in saying that it is our honesty during an interview asking if we pay a full tithe. The bishop doesn't pull out the ledger and exclaim "Liar!" if we're not a full tithe payer. It is incumbent upon us to be faithful and obedient and to answer the questions honestly during an interview. (Sorry if I sound like I am preaching to the choir. :)
Seven you haven’t read all my posts or you would know that I was mormon. My mother definitely worked out her tithe, she never requested church welfare because her children were more than willing to help her if she needed it, but were NOT willing to fork over cash to her to pay tithe to a church we did not support.
OH Oh Pick me!!
I have similar feelings. In fact, while on mission, I made it a lifelong goal to never turn into a "Utah Mormon". While that sounds bad, it's a cultural thing that can sometimes git kind of quirky.
If you've ever spent a goodly amount of time in an orthodox Jewish suburb of Jerusalem, you'll know exactly what I mean. ;-)
Oh come on you guys. I am a Utah Mormon and proud of it. Yes, there is a Mormon culture here in Utah and sometimes we do have a difficult time separating the doctrine vs tradition. However, I have lived for several years outside of Utah and am the same person and practice the same beliefs and have the same faith no matter where I live.
Yea!!! The Utah Jazz won. It was a very exciting game.
I do not consider Mormons to be Christians.
“Before you think the worst of me again, is it too much to ask what I mean by that? I am dyslexic I know that don’t seem to mean much to you but I get more understanding from CC than from you!”
Settle down Restornu, you take offense far too easily, which makes me think you have a difficult time understanding others’ intentions at times as well.
Others on this very thread interpreted your post the same way I did; my response was made in the spirit of clarification, not criticism.
Another response available to you was, “Yes, that’s what I meant.”
“But in reality this is a much less painful way for them than if I was dragged into court and excommunicated because I didn’t sustain the Prophet.”
You wouldn’t be excommunicated for that. About the only things you could do to be excommunicated are kill someone, cheat on your husband, abuse a child, or other such grievous offenses.
See my post #830 for a clarification of my opinion on the topic.
I think your headline perpetuates more division.. I live in the Southwest, It is not easy when you are not a Mormon in this community.
Good people, but they do not look upon other religions too kindly either.. The politics of it can be ugly for your kids in school and in public activities if you are not one of them religiously. My point, It goes both ways...Unfortunately, religion does divide. Always has.
Very true. Good people, but they do not look upon other religions too kindly either.. The politics of it can be ugly for your kids in school and in public activities if you are not one of them religiously. My point, It goes both ways...Unfortunately, religion does divide. Always has.
I agree, especially on the headline. I found it inflammatory, and not pertinent to the news forum either, since it is a total vanity post.
OK, thanks for the explanation. I guess I take the statements too personally.
FM BBL
I don’t think so this kind of behavior I take from others I am use too it but not by some one who is a brother in the Lord!
other legit author write post and are not called vanity if she is a professional writer it is different if you or I post this it would be vanity!
Why don't you explain it.
Start with this one:
29 Man was also in the beginning with God.
Does that mean that God did not create man?
That isn’t what I heard. Apostacy is one of the most heinous of sins, and you definitely can and will be excommunicated for it.
Not only do I not sustain the Prophet, but as you are well aware, I am very vocal in my opposition. Definelty and excommunicable offense. And to tell the truth, I’ve given enough information on FR to pinpoint my identity. One of you could in all likelihood turn me in. In fact I have been grilled on exact dates of pertinent incidences in my life. Generally I only give approximate references.
“I do not consider Mormons to be Christians.”
Please explain why.
“If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?” - Merchant of Venice
I have no doubt many of the things I’ve said on these threads are painful. But most of us are criticizing Mormonism out of a sense of self preservation rather than vindictiveness.
It isn’t your lifestyle that has us upset, nor that part of Mormonism that is Judeo Christian. Instead, it is the danger that comes from your doctrine of making gods of men and the effect that has on Mormons placed in positions of power. I believe Harry Reid is an example of such excess, but he is not the only one like that I have encountered.
Moreover, because of the disconnect Mormonism has to maintain between preserving the charlatanism of Joseph Smith as divine truth against historical reality (for example, a lack of any archaeological foundation to the BOM, and Joseph Smith’s documented grifter background), I have found Mormons to be unstable under stress and insular, retreating into the hive when challenged. Undesireable traits in a leader.
In general, I wouldn’t care, except that living in Las Vegas I have occasion to deal with powerful Mormons and have no desire to be crushed. This follows now to the presidential level, where it is clear Mitt is a Trojan horse for Mormon power interests. Mitt could well be a god among men, and I would never vote for him. A sizeable number of Christians and Jews will feel this way as well by election day, anywhere from 3 to 10 percent of the electorate, making Romney’s election nigh impossible.
“If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?”
I have seen Mormon revenge before and it isn’t pretty - I can only imagine what it would be like at the presidential level. As far as wronging you, the truth can not cause a sane person to bleed, nor is it a poison that will cause you to die, nor can the truth that Joseph Smith was a charlatan be anything less than liberating to the soul. But I can well believe telling the truth can evoke revenge.
I know that FM means Former Mormon.
What does BBL mean? Beliving Bible Lover?
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