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Social Issues ProminentIn Republican Debate
Wall Street Journal ^ | 4 May 2007 | JACKIE CALMES

Posted on 05/04/2007 3:18:30 AM PDT by shrinkermd

In their first debate, staged at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, Republican presidential rivals vied to pay homage to the late president even as they criticized -- or at best, ignored -- the current Republican in the White House, George W. Bush.

Several candidates made reference to the Bush administration's mismanagement of the four-year-old war in Iraq, as if that were a given. Arizona Sen. John McCain defended his support for the war now, saying "it's on the right track." But he added, as he does routinely on the campaign trail, "The war was terribly mismanaged and we now have to fix a lot of the mistakes that were made."

"There was a real error of judgment" from the war's start, said former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. "Those generals told us, early on, it would take 300,000 troops to successfully go in and stabilize Iraq. Instead we gave them a limited number of troops and a budget and said, 'You have to do it with this.'"

...The 10 Republicans on the stage here mostly were united in supporting the administration's current military efforts to end the war; the exception was Texas Rep. Ron Paul, a war foe and self-professed isolationist. That dynamic was the opposite then of last week's first Democratic presidential debate, in which all eight candidates in varying degrees called for withdrawing U.S. troops.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: issues; republicans; social
If you know what President Reagan's 12 Commandment was you move to the head of the class. Note, several of the candidates seem to believe in the MSM polls indicating the whole country hates POTUS.

Rasmussen finds 41% job approval for the President. Add back the Libertarians (Paul)and like minded paleoconservatives (about the war) and you have a better understanding of what is and what is not the public's attitude towards the war.

The leftists may be ringing up their Congress critters about the war, but who else is? None, IMHO. The war is only thought about when someone comes up with a poll and publishes it.

1 posted on 05/04/2007 3:18:33 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Reagan’s 11th commandment was basically “Don’t stab fellow republicans in the back”. What was the 12th?

Besides, who cares what these bozos talked about? Fred is talking tonight and I hear it’s being covered by CSPAN. I hope that’s correct.


2 posted on 05/04/2007 3:29:26 AM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: Laptop_Ron

The 12th was don’t forget the previous 11.


3 posted on 05/04/2007 3:39:49 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

I’m Just Waitin’ On A Fred

Watching girly-men go passing by
It ain’t the latest thing
I’m just standing in a doorway
I’m just trying to make some sense
Out of these girly-men go passing by
The tales of sellout men
I’m not waiting on the Rinos
I’m just waiting on a Fred

His smile relieves a heart that grieves
Remember what I said
I’m not waiting on the Rinos
I’m just waiting on a Fred
I’m just waiting on a Fred

Don’t need a whore
I don’t need no boozer
Don’t need a Mormon priest
But I need someone I can cry to
I need someone to protect me
Making war and breaking heads
It is a game for few
But I’m not waiting on the Rinos
I’m just waiting on a Fred


4 posted on 05/04/2007 4:16:25 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (my axis of evil includes democrats and liberal media)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Fred is nearly dead...or, just looks the part.


5 posted on 05/04/2007 4:43:12 AM PDT by Nephi (Open borders is the flip side of the free trade coin. It's time for Protectionism.)
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how any true conservative can criticize a true conservative in fred thompson is beyond belief

ergo - you’re not a true conservative


6 posted on 05/04/2007 4:58:34 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (my axis of evil includes democrats and liberal media)
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To: shrinkermd
Note, several of the candidates seem to believe in the MSM polls indicating the whole country hates POTUS.

That clearly shows that they're too stupid to run the nation.

7 posted on 05/04/2007 5:08:44 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Enduring Freedom

More like Fred who? Duncan Hunter is the best conservative and candidate in the race. I’m sick of spineless Republicans and Fred is more of the same bipartisan BS.


8 posted on 05/04/2007 5:25:14 AM PDT by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. IN 2008)
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nothing wrong with hunter

he’ll be a great addition to fred’s administration


9 posted on 05/04/2007 5:59:02 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (my axis of evil includes democrats and liberal media)
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To: shrinkermd

Later read.


10 posted on 05/04/2007 7:30:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Yes, Fred’s main claim to fame and what is catapulting him to the first choice is that he is an actor. Say no more; America will be mesmerized! Hard to understand the orgasmic noise coming from many of you Fred lovers. I don’t think Fred warrants being made this deity. Gonna have to come crashing down to earth pretty soon.


11 posted on 05/04/2007 7:36:19 AM PDT by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. IN 2008)
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To: Enduring Freedom

“nothing wrong with hunter”

Except for his record on government spending.


12 posted on 05/04/2007 7:45:10 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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“Hard to understand the orgasmic noise coming from many of you Fred lovers.”




I can not speak for others, but for me it is his solid commitment to federalism and limited government. Other than Ron Paul, there is hardly any other candidates in the GOP primaries that are making this an issue. After eight years of Bush and his “big government conservatism”, I am aching for a leader who will steer a course back to the Goldwater/Reagan brand of limited government conservatism. I consider the choice a no-brainer.

13 posted on 05/04/2007 7:50:45 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Enduring Freedom

What is conservative about Fred Thompson? What is his most notable achievement, besides voting for McCain/Feingold?


14 posted on 05/04/2007 5:15:25 PM PDT by Nephi (Open borders is the flip side of the free trade coin. It's time for Protectionism.)
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