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Drudge GOP Debate Poll -- 50,000 votes; Clear Winners are Romney, Giuliani, and RON PAUL
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| May 4, 2007
| Orthodox Presbyterian
Posted on 05/03/2007 10:23:46 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
DRUDGE REPORT
The Reagan Derby
Well, with 47,617 individual Votes recorded as of 12:55AM EST on 5/4/07, The Drudge Report has provided perhaps the most sweeping and comprehensive initial survey of viewer reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
The Results thus far:
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE REAGAN DERBY?
- Mitt Romney -- 35%
- Rudy Giuliani -- 21%
- RON PAUL -- 16%
- Tommy Thompson -- 7%
- John McCain -- 6%
- Tom Tancredo -- 5%
- Mike Huckabee -- 4%
- Duncan Hunter -- 3%
- Sam Brownback -- 2%
- Jim Gilmore -- 2%
With an optimistic, confident demeaner and a polished presentation, Mitt Romney decidedly overshadowed the erstwhile Front-Runner, Rudy Giuliani. Rudy's primary strength thus far has been his vast name recognition and the sheer momentum of his supposed "inevitability" -- and yet, in terms of viewer reaction, for him to be trailing (by double digits) a former Governor not widely known outside of Massachusetts until this election season demonstrates clear vulnerability on Giuliani's part.
However, the greatest source of comfort to Constitutionalist Conservatives has to be the tremendous upswell of support being registered by the former Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas, United States Congressman Ron Paul -- and that DESPITE receiving comparatively little "face time" from the debate organizers. With viewer reaction to the first GOP Primary Debate already placing Congressman Ron Paul solidly in third place, nine points ahead of his nearest rival and within five points of Giuliani himself, a tremendous opportunity exists for Ron Paul to establish widespread national Name Recognition and garner increasing support for his broadly-appreciated message of Individual Liberty and strictly-limited Government Power.
With the second GOP Primary Debate rapidly approaching, Conservatives can take heart in knowing that the Message of Reagan Republicanism still resonates when presented confidently and forthrightly --and that there's at least one GOP Candidate on the stage who has stood solidly for Reagan Republicanism for thirty years: RON PAUL.
TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; duncanhunter; elections; giuliani; liberal; libertariansaredems; paul; presidentialdebate; rino; romney; ronpaul
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To: KDD
National debate is stifled. Ron Paul can win if people find a way out of the sheep pen that the boob tube keeps them in. If Ron Paul could win it would mark a revolutionary move back to originalist Constitutional thinking by our Executive. We might regain ground that has been lost to the creeping statism which has been steadily encroaching on this nation's people.
Right on, brother!
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posted on
05/04/2007 12:48:38 PM PDT
by
BigTom85
(Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
To: BigTom85
The only reason Bush spent the time dealing with the UN and extra focus on WMDs was to get as many hesitant allies on board. Proof of that is that we still invaded despite the UN voting against us.
Bush’s speeches in the run up to the congressional authroization vote did not focus solely on the UN’s role, by any stretch. It was WMDs, terrorist support, shooting at our planes, and Saddam’s threat to the region.
282
posted on
05/04/2007 12:52:13 PM PDT
by
pissant
To: pissant
You are grasping at straws here feller. The US isnt in the business of defining religions of the world as satanist.
The United States is a country and will not face God's judgment in eternity.
But we will. Personally, I don't support dictators. I don't support false religions who deny Jesus Christ and persecute the saints. I do not support governments which are organized along those antichrist principles. I don't believe Islamists of any stripe are worth the blood of American soldiers who are sworn to uphold and defend our noble Constitution, not the Islamist constitution of a democracy-hating barbaric Islamic hellhole state.
Democracy cannot cure the cancer of Islam. Even Turkey would fall in short order were it not for regular military overthrows of their civilian government.
It is the nature of Islam.
283
posted on
05/04/2007 12:53:35 PM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
To: George W. Bush
yet americans have travelled safely for many decades in Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Morocco, Pakistan, Tunisia, and many other muslim countries. Before the new strain of anti-west terrorist islam was widespread.
Consider Jordan helped us track down Zarquawi and is training iraqi security forces as we speak. They also have been hanging homegrown terrorists with efficiency.
The UAE has had boots on the ground in Afghanistan for years now, with more proposed to come.
Pakistan has arrested and killed thousands of AQ and taliban types and has been instrumental in uncovering many terrorist plots.
Kuwait and Qatar allowed us basing to invade Iraq.
Morrocco has been fighting AQ with more ferocity than most european countries.
Even Yemen has been quietly helping the US in the WOT.
Vilifying all islamic countries is not in our interest. The VOLUNTEER muslim soldiers in Iraq fighting side by side with our troops are not the ememy. Period.
284
posted on
05/04/2007 1:07:24 PM PDT
by
pissant
To: Allegra
“But this (which drove my response, by the way) is OK, right? As long as one is not dissing Ron Paul. Good grief. Nothing like a double-standard.”
Ruh-Roh! Be careful WHOM you diss...
285
posted on
05/04/2007 1:27:23 PM PDT
by
Ike
(My idea of election reform - blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
To: Ike
Last I looked, my nation, the United States of America guaranteed me freedom of speech.
And I use it.
286
posted on
05/04/2007 1:35:00 PM PDT
by
Allegra
(Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
To: Allegra
Applause, applause!
I never expected you to do otherwise!
(It’s been a bit rocky this week around here....)
287
posted on
05/04/2007 1:44:56 PM PDT
by
Ike
(My idea of election reform - blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
To: Ike
(Its been a bit rocky this week around here....) LOL - so I've noticed. I've seen the Neverending Thread.
But, I'll take my chances. I won't have my views censored.
And the day I support any member of the Surrender-Monkey-Cut-and-Run Crowd will be the day Saddam and his sons are shoveling snow down there in Hell. ;-)
288
posted on
05/04/2007 1:51:09 PM PDT
by
Allegra
(Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
To: pissant
Vilifying all islamic countries is not in our interest.
They have vilified themselves. They degrade themselves with their false barracks religion.
While it may be useful to assess the level of danger they pose to civilization, they can never be trusted as long as they live under sharia or tolerate radical clerics.
Islam is not a religion. It's a totalitarian system much as Communism was. Any other view is wild-eyed optimism.
OTOH, I have no problem with Arabic Christians or non-Muslim Arabs. Well, the few that manage to survive their proximity to actual Islam, as opposed to the sweetly tolerant Islam you imagine.
289
posted on
05/04/2007 3:08:20 PM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
To me Ron Paul seemed a little “fruity”. And, yes, I mean it in the way you think I meant it: FRUITY!!!
290
posted on
05/04/2007 3:12:38 PM PDT
by
no dems
(Michele Malkin: She's Ann Coulter with class.)
To: George W. Bush
Have they vilified themselves? All of them? Seems to me that Allawi (the first PM of the fledgling Iraq gov't) fought against Saddam, and against the islamist parties in Iraq post Saddam. Is he our enemy? Is King Hussein of Jordan our enemy? Are the special forces in the Afghan Army that have been slaughtering Taliban? Are the hundreds of spies and translators we've recruited? Was the Northern Alliance Warlord in Afghanistan that fought the USSR, then fought the taliban for years before being assasinated? Are the brave souls in islam that take on the islamists for hijacking the religion?
Are these folks?
291
posted on
05/04/2007 3:17:14 PM PDT
by
pissant
To: bnelson44
Ron Paul reminds me of Ross Perot.
They even have the same initials.
292
posted on
05/04/2007 3:19:33 PM PDT
by
Palladin
(Don't ever make your mother cry.)
To: Allegra
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posted on
05/04/2007 3:21:51 PM PDT
by
pissant
To: pissant
Are these folks?
You're asking the wrong person.
Although many people would say baby coons and baby coyotes are cute, I still shoot them, knowing exactly what they are. It is due to their nature, the natural course their lives will follow if unchecked.
As for your use of the charity of an American soldier, I recognize that American soldiers have always been very softhearted to those in occupied countries, something that goes back well over a century. It's not a flaw but it is certainly not something that sways my opinions any more than it would sway opinions at Foggy Bottom or CFR or DIA/CIA or even the New York Times.
Your citing of "good" Muslims fails to account for the vast majority of these barbarians who are and will remain a danger to civilization, just as they have for the last thousand years.
Would you be posting that pic and defending those Muslims tomorrow afternoon if Iran nuked Tel Aviv tomorrow morning? Or if Muslim terrorists exploded a dirty bomb in LAX or at the Stock Exchange? Or if they just had a little school event like the Chechens did in Russia a while back?
I think not. You can have the Muslims and their quaint Religion Of Peace. I will instead heed Churchill's sound and sombre warning about their fundamental and chronic condition:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute propertyeither as a child, a wife, or a concubinemust delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of sciencethe science against which it had vainly struggledthe civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
I'll take Churchill. You can have Achmed.
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posted on
05/04/2007 3:31:37 PM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
To: George W. Bush
Good grief. Even the Sunni tribesman have turned against AQ in al Anbar province to a large degree. Try top keep up with what’s going on.
295
posted on
05/04/2007 3:35:10 PM PDT
by
pissant
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NGU2ZWY0MGZmYjAwYmU4NTg5MjJhOWRjMTg3MjZjMjc=
Another Omen [Jonah Goldberg]
Last night Ron Paul supporters flanked out across the web, voting in polls (including MSNBC's) and swamping comments sections in huge numbers. We've reached a point where this sort of thing is immediately recognizable as the disproportionate impact of the over-committed.
It's like netroot spam and seminar callers on C-SPAN.
I liked Ron Paul last night. I'm glad he's in the race.
But I'm already exhausted by what I know will be a long summer of e-pestering from Paulites about the "mass movement" sweeping the nation that won't earn more than a handful real votes, anywhere."
Ron Paul's spamers are not fooling anybody and irritating most Republicans.
296
posted on
05/04/2007 3:39:23 PM PDT
by
elizabetty
(Why is Rudy concerned about 3000 dead Amercans but NOT 50,000,000 dead American Babies?)
To: pissant
Even the Sunni tribesman have turned against AQ in al Anbar province to a large degree.
So is that worth another fifty dead or maimed American soldiers? Is it worth a hundred?
Maybe you could get a job with the Pentagon to go out to their homes and break the news and then explain it all to their mothers, why their sons had to die for the Sunni tribesmen of al-Anbar province. Sounds like rewarding work.
297
posted on
05/04/2007 3:40:47 PM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
To: Palladin
come from the same state too
298
posted on
05/04/2007 4:22:39 PM PDT
by
bnelson44
(http://www.appealforcourage.org)
To: KDD
Tell me what victory in Iraq will look like???
Nya, Nya, Nya, Nya
Simple questions.
Nya, Nya, Nya
Simple questions, lots of attitude. I will try to remember that you are a Ron Paul supporter and not just some liberal Democrat.
Perhaps you think simple questions have simple answers. Heres a simple answer from President Wilson we are fighting the war to end all wars. Heres another simple answer. Jimmy Carter thought we had an inordinate fear of communism and that if we just pulled back, the Russians would do likewise. It didnt turn out that way.
This war resembles Vietnam. The Democrats abandoned our ally, South Vietnam. The 1974-75 Congress cut off funds and reneged on commitments. Democrats see their actions as right. But millions were murdered and enslaved in South East Asia. And it pushed back victory over the Russian communist empire by several decades.
On to new mischief. Iran was an American ally under the Shah of Iran. Jimmy Carter undermined the Shah, bringing in the Ayatollah Khomeini. He lit the flame of Islamic extremism that we are trying to extinguish today. Wouldnt it be nice if Iran were an ally today instead of an enemy?
Conservatives predicted falling dominoes and mass murder, if we abandoned Vietnam. Although they may have been wrong on the specifics, they were generally right. These same types of conservatives predict matters will be worse if we abandon Iraq today.
We did not get peace by leaving Saddam and other supporters of terrorism alone. We wont get peace by leaving them alone now.
We have had successes. FDR defeated Germany and Japan. We had success in Korea. Reagan/Bush defeated the Soviet Union. It may seem trite to say, but there really is no substitute for victory. The sooner, the better. It wont be easy, but there is no better alternative. Sorry.
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posted on
05/04/2007 6:20:47 PM PDT
by
ChessExpert
(Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul may win despite the media and elitists GOP hierarchy for him :>}
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posted on
05/04/2007 7:31:31 PM PDT
by
cva66snipe
(Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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