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To: Badeye
Make it a felony for a CEO/COO & CFO for any company found to employ illegals. 5 year federal prison term, mandatory, with a fine of ten percent of the company’s estimated net worth.

Likewise, make it a felony for any property owner to rent or sell to an illegal.

Any state that doesn’t comply, cut off all federal funding at every level til the state gets with the program.

With five years, there would be a reverse of the tide back to Mexico, and elsewhere.

Sounds good, but my only question to you is: In order to make all of that work, it would take a National ID Card, and that means that YOU would have to show it for all of those transactions, too.

Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?

39 posted on 05/03/2007 12:23:38 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Sounds good, but my only question to you is: In order to make all of that work, it would take a National ID Card, and that means that YOU would have to show it for all of those transactions, too.

Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?’

Its my position the Social Security Card is already our ‘national ID card’. Verifying a SSN number costs less than 45 cents per check. And it takes, literally, seconds to do so.


40 posted on 05/03/2007 12:25:53 PM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: Yo-Yo
>>>>Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?

We've already have a national ID card of sorts. Its called a Social Security card.

44 posted on 05/03/2007 12:33:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Yo-Yo

I don’t believe that a nat’l ID would be required, any way what do you think your SS# is, that alone would be enough info to deter the hiring or conducting bussines with illegals
The system wouldn’t have to be so perfect that it would catch every single illegal. just catch enough employers and punish them and the rest will stop and there wont be any incentive for them to be here. unless their goal is to become an American citizen


53 posted on 05/03/2007 12:49:44 PM PDT by Texas Patriot (Remember.... The Alamo, never forget HOORAHH!!!!!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Sounds good, but my only question to you is: In order to make all of that work, it would take a National ID Card, and that means that YOU would have to show it for all of those transactions, too.

You already have to show a state government issued ID and provide a Social Security Number when you're hired for a job.

What you need are more reliable state IDs (Which REAL ID should provide eventually), and for the Social Security Administration to report when SSN is sent in that is a duplicate or belongs to someone with a different name.

That doesn't place any additional burdens on citizens as far as employment goes than they face right now.

It can be avoided to some extent by them working as independent contractors rather than employees, but if if the majority, that are actual employees are dealt with, the remaining ones that claim self employment will be easier to find and deport. You could also require any reasonably large company check the taxpayer Id of those independent contractors as well.

I don't think landlords have any requirements to run background checks or verify identities or legal status. It's been a long time since I rented from someone and I've never rented to someone.

It wouldn't be difficult to require a landlord to check an Id, and if the Ids are reliable and legal status is required to get one, merely checking an Id will those who's legal status didn't change before the Id expired. Setting up a toll free number to verify that the Id is still valid could also be done, but since they are State Ids, the landlord should have to call the state government, but immigration is a federal issue, so that might make legislating it difficult.

54 posted on 05/03/2007 12:52:30 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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