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'Out-of-control' mormons guilty of child cruelty
24Dash ^ | 02/05/2007 | Jon Land

Posted on 05/03/2007 10:48:30 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: irishtenor; ClearCase_guy
If they had met at a Walmart, would they have been dentified as “Walmart shoppers?”irishtenor

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The purpose of the headline and the content of the article was to smear the Mormons.

Well....what will happen is that more people will become curious about the Mormon religion. The next time Mormon missionaries knock on their door, they will let them in just so they can learn more about the religion.

Also...I bet the the career of this journalist will not prosper.

21 posted on 05/03/2007 11:11:21 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Gamecock

Now you know, that the ONLY reason it states Morman is because one of our own is a Morman.

If this were any other religon, like Muslim or whatever, there would be no mention.

Or how about this headline, “God hating couple do....”


22 posted on 05/03/2007 11:13:10 AM PDT by stockpirate (Al Qaeda is in the United States, they are in the House and Senate, Democrats all!)
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To: Gamecock

What does their crime have to do with them being mormon?

Can you imagine a story starting with ‘two democratic women’, because they met at a democratic committee meeting?

I expected to find they were punishing kids at the church or something. But the article doesn’t give any reason to associate their crimes with the mormon faith or that they are mormons.

So it seems like it was just a swipe at the religion.


23 posted on 05/03/2007 11:14:37 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ClearCase_guy

I bet she’s an SUV driver too.


24 posted on 05/03/2007 11:16:43 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: napscoordinator
Take those kids out of that house immediately. What are they teaching these kids in that “religion”? That is some wacky stuff!!!

She's just a nutcase. Wherever she picked up her warped ideas on parenting, she sure didn't learn it at church I can assure you. What a Wacko!

25 posted on 05/03/2007 11:18:31 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: wintertime
Well....what will happen is that more people will become curious about the Mormon religion.

Well here is a handy fact sheet for them, with footnotes!:

1. Mormons can become gods and goddesses.

2. Goddesses will spend eternity in full submission to their god-husband.

3. Mormon women will give birth “forever and ever” to spirit-babies.

4. Mormon men can have multiple wives in heaven—eternal polygamy.

5. Heavenly Father is an exalted man who lives with his goddess wife, Heavenly Mother, on a planet near the great star Kolob.

6. American Indians are descendants of the wicked Lamanites, who were Israelites that God cursed with dark skin.

7. God the Father had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus, who is the half brother of Lucifer.

8. All Christian churches are an abomination.

9. Mormons need 4 secret handshakes to get into the Celestial heaven.

10. Joseph Smith revealed that the actual Garden of Eden is in Jackson County, Missouri.

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[1] Journal of Discourses 1:50-51; J of D 8:115; Doctrine and Covenants Section 132:20

[2] Doctrine and Covenants 84:33-9; Goddesses are always subject to a god. Women are denied the Priesthood (meaning they are denied authority—not the same as Catholic priesthood). “In the LDS universe, theologically described as the real eternal universe, each man who achieves the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom is worth many times more than each woman, even the women who qualify at that highest Celestial level, because each man who achieves Godhood-level may have numerous God-wives, but each God-wife may have only one husband. This can only mean that each “heavenly father” is worth many times more than each “heavenly mother.” And, even if the ratio were strictly one to one, the male God, not the female God, holds the priesthood authority and is the only one of the God parents to whom his earth-mortality children are allowed to pray. So Mormon women can never, NEVER achieve equality with men, no matter how outstanding or righteous the women are. That’s just the way it’s set up.” MORMON WOMEN, PROZAC® and THERAPY By Kent Ponder, Ph.D. e-mail address: kponder@swcp.com http://home.teleport.com/~packham/prozac.htm.

[3] LDS Apostle Orson Pratt wrote, “Each father and mother will be in the condition to multiply forever and ever” (The Seer, 37).

[4] Doctrine and Covenants 132; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 11:269; Men can still be sealed for eternity (not time) to women other than their wives; “The practice of polygamy has been discontinued, but the doctrine of polygamy has never been revoked. D&C 132 is still part of the LDS canon. And some current church practices are still based on polygamous principles.” See pro-Mormon site http://mormonopenforum.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/eternal-polygamy/ (accessed February 25, 2007).

[5] Pearl of Great Price, Abraham 3:2-4, 9; J of D, 26:214.

[6] Book of Mormon: Alma 3:6-19; 3 Nephi 2:14-15; Enos 1:20; J of D, 7: 290-291.

[7] Journal of Discourses 8: 116; J of D 8: 211; J of D 8: 115; Mormon Doctrine p.546-547.

[8] Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith—History 1:19. Smith claimed God sent him to “restore” true Christianity.

[9] Celestial Kingdom is the highest of 3 levels in the Mormon heaven (need handshakes to get past the angel guarding the veil); See ex-Mormon site http://www.mormoncurtain.com/(accessed February 25, 2007); David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship, http://lds-mormon.com/buerger.shtml (accessed February 25, 2007).

[10] Doctrine and Covenants 116; Journal of Discourses, 10:235; Smith named the Spring Hill, Daviess County, Missouri area Adam-Ondi-Ahman.

26 posted on 05/03/2007 11:19:02 AM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel Provides What The Law Demands)
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To: Cymbaline

see my 19


27 posted on 05/03/2007 11:20:03 AM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel Provides What The Law Demands)
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To: Gamecock

What IS it with all the Mormon threads on FR lately? If Romney wins the primaries this place will explode.


28 posted on 05/03/2007 11:20:18 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: Cymbaline

How would you know that? I don’t know much about the religion except what I learned from here at FREEPERS and bottom line is most think it is a cult. What a Wacko!


29 posted on 05/03/2007 11:20:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Maria S
Seems to me this little story is the start of a smear campaign against Romney.

And Romney's a Mormon (whispers "Mormon")

Rush listeners will get that one.

30 posted on 05/03/2007 11:21:39 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (A proud member of the Frederalist society. Gnats don't bother us)
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To: Gamecock
5. Heavenly Father is an exalted man who lives with his goddess wife, Heavenly Mother, on a planet near the great star Kolob.
I was unaware of this one - thanks.
31 posted on 05/03/2007 11:21:56 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Gamecock
From the LDS.org newsroom: Simply put, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to child abusers. When abuse is suspected, the Church directs its members to first contact the legal authorities and then their local bishop for counseling and support. The Church cooperates fully with law enforcement in investigating incidents of child abuse and bringing perpetrators to justice.

Members of the Church found guilty of child abuse are also subject to the laws of God. President Hinckley has said: "Our hearts reach out to the offender, but we cannot tolerate the sin of which he may be guilty. Where there has been offense, there is a penalty." Convicted child abusers are excommunicated, the highest possible discipline our faith can impose. Excommunicated members cannot take part in Church meetings or hold responsibilities of any kind within the congregation.

Because I know some dimwit will say that child abuse is an accepted practice in the LDS Church.

32 posted on 05/03/2007 11:23:44 AM PDT by Domandred
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To: colorado tanker; Gamecock
No mention of a father here.

Hmmmm....something I noticed as well.

33 posted on 05/03/2007 11:23:44 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: napscoordinator
bottom line is most think it is a cult.
I agree, but be that as it may - I still don't see what child abuse had to do with being Mormon. I have a few Mormon friends, and to my knowledge, and from my observation, this is not a "church" practice - nor is anything like it.

I agree with the other poster, they could have just as easily been tired to Wal Mart, or Ford, or Chevy, or even tennis shoe wearer...
34 posted on 05/03/2007 11:25:41 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: napscoordinator
bottom line is most think it is a cult.
I agree, but be that as it may - I still don't see what child abuse had to do with being Mormon. I have a few Mormon friends, and to my knowlege, and from my observation, this is not a "church" practice - nor is anything like it.

I agree with the other poster, they could have just as easily been tied to Wal Mart, or Ford, or Chevy, or even tennis shoe wearer...
35 posted on 05/03/2007 11:26:05 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Gamecock

I am willing to bet that being Mormon had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that these women are crazy and horrible parents. Just like I don’t assume that all evangelical Christian parents are nutcases like the Pearls.

Just like the fact that I am Catholic has nothing to do with the fact that I made my daughter put her bike away after riding it, which apparently has made me the world’s meanest mom. Judging by the way she’s carrying on anyway.....


36 posted on 05/03/2007 11:26:37 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: napscoordinator

(sorry about the double hit there...


37 posted on 05/03/2007 11:26:41 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: mockingbyrd
the world’s meanest mom
LOL!! Well, I'm Baptist and Monday I was the worlds meanest Dad - Nice to meet you!
38 posted on 05/03/2007 11:28:05 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Gamecock
We had neighbors a few years ago that were Mormon. One of the things they told me was that they believed that in a previous life they could have and probably did make contracts to sire a friend in their next life, as in "I'd like to be your son in our next lives." But the problem was that in this life, they had no idea how many contracts the husband and wife may have made. Therefore, they had as many children as they thought they needed to satisfy previous agreements, plus one.

Is this a typical Mormon belief or just something this family believed in?

39 posted on 05/03/2007 11:28:20 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Domandred

Just like Mountain Meadows or polygamy.


40 posted on 05/03/2007 11:28:28 AM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel Provides What The Law Demands)
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