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Russia cuts fuel supplies to Estonia amid statue row
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Posted on 05/02/2007 6:13:46 PM PDT by kronos77

moscow • Russia halted deliveries of oil products to Estonia yesterday in a move that coincided with protests in Moscow over the Baltic state’s relocation of a Soviet war memorial.

The cut-off was likely to revive Western fears the Kremlin is using its energy might as a political weapon against ex-Soviet neighbours.

Russia’s state rail monopoly said it planned to carry out maintenance on the rail link to Estonia, disrupting supplies.

Coal exporters said Russian railways had also halted exports of steam coal via Estonia for this month, totalling up to 900,000 tonnes, citing a shortage of railway wagons.

They said Russian rail monopoly RzHD told them they must use their own rail wagons, not RzHD’s, but it has not been possible with such short notice to find alternative wagons.

Moscow and Tallinn have been trading barbs since Estonia last week moved a bronze statue of a Red Army soldier—revered in Russia as a symbol of its huge sacrifices in World War Two — from its spot in the centre of the capital.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: energy; estonia; gasputin; kremlin; nashi; neosoviets; oil; putinism; russia
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To: george76

Putin and his crowd has already thought about him being ‘Czar for life’.


81 posted on 05/04/2007 9:39:26 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

I am interested in the history of the Russians, first invading Afghanistan, then getting defeated and booted out, thanks to the support of Ronald Reagan against those bastard’s Evil Empire.

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Exactlly!
And mow same thing, same place, different positions!
Rssia is doing to US same thing Reagan was doing to Soviets.
And I hate that.


82 posted on 05/04/2007 12:47:10 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
Yep. Only brave serbs are innocent like a pure virgin.
83 posted on 05/04/2007 12:59:15 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: RusIvan

It takes a few years to build coal and nuke plants


84 posted on 05/04/2007 4:03:45 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot; M. Espinola; Grzegorz 246; tgambill

Russian strategy:

The big plan is that US looses the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Major enemy is not Russia as much as Dems back in the US.
Democrates are acctualy the ones that get US involved in all local wars and than, playing peace activists while Republicans are trying to clean up the sht that Democrates did.
EU is no longer ally of US, nor NATO is. In near future they will try to get wery friendly with Russia and Latino countries, in order to economicaly cutt-off US from rest of the world.
Than if US economy is affected, US will need to choose to cutt-down military, possibly abandoning navy, scaling-down Airforce etc.
EU and Russia will play ethnicity card, as NATo did in Balkans, devidind Americans upon they skin color or religionb. First, they will ask for rights of “Mexicans” in “Occupied South West” or “Aztlan”, claiming that Mexicans are majority and that Americans are abusing them (US strategy against Serbs), than Eu and Russia will get Soros and other bastards on their side, if not allready, securing his an him alikes their own personal gains, profite and cash.
Than Eu and Russia will fund some terrorist... sorry “Liberation Army” in Southern States of US, claiming that “Black majority is abused by white minority in US” (American strategy against serbs in Kosovo, Bosnia” and EU and Russia will demand that all power is given to “Black people” in Southern states. That will be the end of US if US dosent try to make Russians friendly.
And if this diabolical plan works, Missile shield sites in Poland and Czechia, will stand asMaginot line stands now... forrgotten.

US must seek real allies and not Estonians and simmilar. Only Poles are real allies of US in Europe but they are not politicaly or military strong enough to change tide. WOT cannot be won just by US and UK, and Poland. It is global war and needs to be fought with global allies.

Can you all imagine US saying in WWII “The hell with Stalin, he is commie bastard, we dont need him, just us and UK will win war against Hitler!” !?

I cant.


85 posted on 05/05/2007 1:22:46 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Now those same Chechens are part of the Russian army. Putin sent two battalions of “former rebel” muslim Chechens to Lebanon to help hizb-allah’s jihad against Israel. Russia’s population is almost a quarter muslim. How much of Russia’s army is muslim, now? Half?" ----------- "The man who might save Iraq (GOOD NEWS)" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828762/posts BAGHDAD - He is a former Sunni Arab mujahid from Ramadi who until recently was fighting the US occupation. He has only a secondary education and is married with two wives. Now he is praised even by urban, secular, highly educated Shi'ites as a "conscious man", or "the kind of man we need now in Iraq". Sheikh Abdul Satter Abu Risha is the leader of the Anbar Sovereignty Council, a powerful coalition of Anbar tribes, including at least 200 sheikhs, that is fighting the Salafi jihadis of al-Qaeda in Iraq/the Islamic < snip > It's fair to assume, though, that once these jihadis end up in the hands of the ministry's death squads, torture and death are inevitable. Resistance to capture also means jihadis are killed on the spot. And when the going gets really rough, "sometimes we call for American air strikes". < snip > What people do know and have started to notice is the increasingly high profile of Sheikh Abu Risha. He may not be Iraq's savior, but as the larger-than-life tragedy of Iraq stands, a Sunni sheikh leading a tribal coalition fighting alongside a predominantly Shi'ite Iraqi government against Salafi jihadist terror is better news than any "international community" rhetorical flourishes emanating from Sharm al-Sheikh, where the international community was debating Iraq's future.
86 posted on 05/05/2007 2:51:17 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
The first course of counter measures must be to remove Moscow's most valuable geostrategic proxies in the Middle & Near East in that of Russian armed Iran on Iraq's eastern border and Russian armed Syria, on Iraq's western border. American and Coalition troops are being murdered by Iranian and Syrian trained jihadist killers, not forgetting the Wahhabist Sunni terrorist funded by Saudi Arabia plus scores of other Sunni controlled Arab/Muslim régimes.

The second and joint course of counter Kremlin measures must be leadership from the White House and NATO quickly cutting through the deliberate congressional red tape from the sellout Dems and get are defensive missile shield in every new NATO nation up and down the borders of Putin's evil empire.

Each time Moscow steps over the line directing Putin's wrath at former Eastern E.U. nations, which were enslaved by the Russians for far too long, we must tighten the screws urging all NATO members not purchase Moscow's exports. Obviously it is mandatory Washington needs to take the lead, setting the #1 participatory example in slapping any economic repercussions on the Russians for their aggressive acts. I would not take any bets on the economic aspects I have mentioned, unless Putin invaded a bordering free nation, slaughtering thousands in the process. In other words applying enforceable and meaning economic sanctions is beyond a long shot.

87 posted on 05/05/2007 2:52:18 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: kronos77
"Can you all imagine US saying in WWII “The hell with Stalin, he is commie bastard, we dont need him, just us and UK will win war against Hitler!” !?

In early Map of 1945, once the Krauts had surrendered, Allied forces should have continued Eastward from Berlin. General Patton had the keen insight to foresee, the communist Evil Empire controlled by Stalin was the new threat the West would confront. Patton was totally justified in his overview, and the world paid the price for not adhering to his advice.

88 posted on 05/05/2007 3:03:54 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

“The first course of counter measures must be to remove Moscow’s most valuable geostrategic proxies in the Middle & Near East in that of Russian armed Iran on Iraq’s eastern border and Russian armed Syria, on Iraq’s western border. American and Coalition troops are being murdered by Iranian and Syrian trained jihadist killers, not forgetting the Wahhabist Sunni terrorist funded by Saudi Arabia plus scores of other Sunni controlled Arab/Muslim régimes.”


-US is dependant of oil import from Muslim countries, Saudi Arabia as ally, in same time Saudis are enemies of US.

“The second and joint course of counter Kremlin measures must be leadership from the White House and NATO quickly cutting through the deliberate congressional red tape from the sellout Dems and get are defensive missile shield in every new NATO nation up and down the borders of Putin’s evil empire.”

Missile shield is stupidity that will en u as maginot line in France, that money could be spent in conventional weapon system, booletproof wests, replacing of M16 with new rifle, replacement of 5,56 with stronder round etc.
Democrates are cancer of US, and cant be removed.

“Each time Moscow steps over the line directing Putin’s wrath at former Eastern E.U. nations, which were enslaved by the Russians for far too long, we must tighten the screws urging all NATO members not purchase Moscow’s exports. Obviously it is mandatory Washington needs to take the lead, setting the #1 participatory example in slapping any economic repercussions on the Russians for their aggressive acts. I would not take any bets on the economic aspects I have mentioned, unless Putin invaded a bordering free nation, slaughtering thousands in the process. In other words applying enforceable and meaning economic sanctions is beyond a long shot.”

Russian export of stretegic products (oil and gas) is keeping EU alive. That is all about. Germany, France, Utaly are dependant on Russian oil and gas (Italy signet deal with Putin 14 days ago) and no such mesures will ever be taken. US lost NATO as an ally. Even if West inposes embargo on Russia, it will cause dessaster for West economy. Power shortages, reduction of economy, job lossess, while Russia will orientate to sell to China and India.


89 posted on 05/05/2007 3:13:17 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: M. Espinola

“In early Map of 1945, once the Krauts had surrendered, Allied forces should have continued Eastward from Berlin. General Patton had the keen insight to foresee, the communist Evil Empire controlled by Stalin was the new threat the West would confront. Patton was totally justified in his overview, and the world paid the price for not adhering to his advice.”


That would be suicidal. If you just remember that Hitler allmost crushed Allies at Ardennes with handful of tanks, what could be expected from Russian IS-3 and T-34 tanks?
US nuked Japan to avoid 100,000 casulties that were expected if Japan was to be invaded, casulties against Soviets, would be much higher, that about “continuing eastwards” is merely an urban legen of those days.


90 posted on 05/05/2007 3:15:54 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
"-US is dependant of oil import from Muslim countries, Saudi Arabia as ally, in same time Saudis are enemies of US.

You are correct America unfortunately & continues being hooked on imported Middle Eastern (Islamic) oil, however there has been minor progress to alter that energy dependent condition, some 30 years too late, but nevertheless, attempts are underway to gear toward alternative energy sources.

In terms of the Saudis, my own opinion is the Wahhabist Islamic cultist controlling the oil rich nation are not our friends and are actively funding various Sunni related terrorist groups and wars, plus the fact the Arabian régime heavily finances at least 80% on new mosques in the Western world. Fifteen of the nineteen September 11th hijackers were Saudi nationals and all were crazed WahHabists.

"Missile shield is stupidity that will en u as maginot line in France, that money could be spent in conventional weapon system, booletproof wests, replacing of M16 with new rifle, replacement of 5,56 with stronder round etc. Democrates are cancer of US, and cant be removed."

The Eastern Europeans are confronted with multi potential missile threats from Iran, Syria, Putin's Russia, and even from North Korea, contingent on the various ranges of that communist state's offensive nuclear missile capabilities, thus the defensive 'missile shield' the most advanced mobile AMB system is indeed needed as well as upgrades in conventional weapon systems. Relating to your comment on "the Democrats are cancer of US, and cant be removed." Yes, they are a cancer, they have a slim majority in the House but that current majority can be altered through future elections.

"Russian export of stretegic products (oil and gas) is keeping EU alive. That is all about. Germany, France, Utaly are dependant on Russian oil and gas (Italy signet deal with Putin 14 days ago) and no such mesures will ever be taken. US lost NATO as an ally. Even if West inposes embargo on Russia, it will cause dessaster for West economy. Power shortages, reduction of economy, job lossess, while Russia will orientate to sell to China and India."

Russia's recent history of energy blackmail should be serious warning for E.U. leaders. that becoming dependent on Moscow for free flowing energy requirements is not only foolish by potentially dangerous for the nation security of each E.U. nation.

NATO forces are working well in Afghanistan so I do not understand why you say 'the U.S. has lost NATO'. granted amongst various left leaning E.U. heads of state, sure there is rabid anti-Americanism on a variety of issues. If the updated polls are correct at least France will not be dragged under control of yet another far Leftist in Sunday's election results. The French socialists will be defeated, according to the polls.

Getting back to the increasing problems with Russia. What course of attack would you recommend when Putin's Kremlin steps over the line again? Recall, only issuing verbal condemnations of Russian aggression will encourage the neo-Soviets to test the West even further. The Russians respect what they are in the habit of dishing out, which is force, not hollow diplomatic corp speeches.

91 posted on 05/05/2007 8:27:53 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: kronos77
Pitting muslims against other muslims is indeed a good idea. That still doesn’t explain why Russia sends muslim troops into other nations, not to attack other muslims, but to assist their jihad against non-muslims. Russia is the source of the jihad against Israel. Russia is the source of the Syrian and Iranian threat and all the terrorists they sponsor.
92 posted on 05/05/2007 12:27:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kronos77
Major enemy is not Russia as much as Dems back in the US.

They merely serve Russia's interests. They are traitors and will serve the interests of any and all of America's enemies. Russia's strategy hasn't changed at all since the cold war. They've always supported all our enemies and they always will. Russia will NEVER be our ally in the war on Terror. Russia is THE ENEMY in the War on Terror! Russia is exactly who has to be defeated for America to survive. We will defeat them, just like we defeated them before! All their pet democrats in the USA couldn't stop the collapse of their beloved Soviet Union, and they won't stop the collapse of Russia either. Russia has proved that it must be destroyed and broken apart just like the Soviet Union was, and that's exactly what we are going to do to them. You think we can't? Just watch!

93 posted on 05/05/2007 12:34:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Pitting muslims against other muslims is indeed a good idea.


My favourite. Chechen (pro-Russian) president Kadirov is muslim bastard, hug and criminal, former Chechen rebell and terrorist. And he hates Chechen rebells guts!
Russia captured him in 90es and amde him most faithfull dog, he showed to be brutal and sneaky bastard in clashes with rebells/terrorists.
Actually, Litvinenko before being shot, was investigating “warcrimes against Chechens” commited by Kadirov

Iraq-Iran war in 80es? Man, that was best of all! Wish it lasted for couple of decades...


94 posted on 05/05/2007 1:02:39 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

thug, not hug :) typo, sorry.


95 posted on 05/05/2007 1:03:21 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: M. Espinola

- Problem is actual confrontation with Russia.

- To defend from US actions, and gain allies, Russia is supporting Iranian Bastards, aswell as NKorean bastard.

- To gain oil and friends in Gulf and region, USA is supporting maniacal regime in Riyad, and ONLY Islamic nuclear nation- Pakistan

Victimes:
Serbia and Israel.

-In order to appease Muslims, USA is supporting Kosovo Muslim Albanians, and more reacently, wehhabi terrorist directly funded by US-ally, Saudi Arabia in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Serbia propper.

- In order also to appease Muslims in region, USA is forcing Israel to negotiate, denyign Israelis “first strike” option and restrainging IDF actions, also forcing Israel (much like Serbia) to ceede territories to Muslims.

- On Balkans, Russia have no Muslim allies to appease, therefore have paved way for support Serbia (as much as I would like USA to support us)
- in Middle East, Russia is trying to restrain US influence, and in general is controling Arab terrorists, but not in full control. Also, Arab terrorists are in same manner controled more by Saudis (US allies) and other bastards.

My prognossis is that Israel lost its confidence in US, (A.Sharon openly asked when US attacked Serbia in 1999 “Are we next, Is Israel going to be bembed if Arabs ask more land?” and it is very possible that Israel will finaly seek support in Russia. that would be very possible and that US go openly anti-Israely to appease Muslim allies. Why not? Serbia was ally to USA in 2 world wars, but... and Israel was, newer ally of USA.

With more Russian gripping of power, and EU allying to Russia (even just economical, EU wont ewer go anti-Russian, in same way US will newer go anti-Saudi), USA will be forced to become openly pro-muslim.

Russia.
If Muslims continue to breed like they do in EU, Christians will be minority wery soon, and abandoned by their own gowerment (Poland is only Christian country, wall maybe Bulgaria aswell- in EU) most of EU Christians will look upon Russia, maybe dictatorship and sneaky, but as only aid and help. much as Eastern Europe looked upon US for help.


96 posted on 05/05/2007 1:16:01 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
You may be interested to know that our current secretary of war, Robert Gates had a hand in fomenting the Iran-Iraq war when he was in the CIA. The only reason our troops are still in Iraq now is because of Iran. They are the next target. One by one, Russia’s proxies fall, until Russia is completely surrounded. If Russia wants to live they had better think of ways to make America friendly to them!
97 posted on 05/05/2007 1:19:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: M. Espinola

And third victime of New Cold war will be Poland.
Sorrounded by hostile nations (Germany and their Bellarus/Russian frinds) and bypassed by most oil/gas corridors (new goes Russia-Germanyavoiding poland across baltic, Poland is not as much Pro-European country as mu as pro-US.

So, Inbetween EU and Russia, Poland is likley to be politicaly and afterwards economically isolated with US too far to act in aid.

Just remember september of 1939, when it neighbours did to poland with UK and France doing nothing...


98 posted on 05/05/2007 1:19:45 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

Preludes to war.

This looks to me as Russia working itself into a frenzy to justify retaking the breakaway Soviet republics.


99 posted on 05/05/2007 1:23:59 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Moment that US invades Iran (and I hope you kill all of those Iranian bastards)Russians will dance in joy!

Another war without end, with american dying...
heeey...
Thing is that US is doing exactly what Russia wans US to do. Overstreaching its forces, suffering casulties, creating enemies, loosing friends...

After 5 years of occupation of Iran (2012 if invasion starts this year) how many americans will die? will there be a acceptable endwar? my 2012 do you see France, Germany, Itally as US allies in Iran? I dont.

My point is that tere isnt real WOT, WOT means “Kill all muslim terrorists, Saudis, Iraqis, Iranians, Pakis” but US is saying, OKI, tohe are bad Islamic bastards (Iraq, Iran, Talibans) and those are good Islamic bastards (Saudis, Pakistanians etc”.

It is just like Petting Hitler to fight Mussolini! Either yoe kill them all either you loose.


100 posted on 05/05/2007 1:27:19 PM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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