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To: HaveHadEnough
we could do/change hypotheticals all night..

change "car lease" to "credit card"....most credit cards are variable rates...they change like the wind....a living contract...and we have no say in the changing rates.

the other side, just a bit different..try this on for size

my father leased a car when before i was born...the terms of the lease are the same for everybody...in fact everybody is covered under the same lease...the best lease of all-times
The terms of the lease state, you can have change, but only if enough of your fellow citizens want the same change.

Seems ok to me as we get the final say so.

33 posted on 05/02/2007 3:50:35 PM PDT by stylin19a (Bad golf shots come in groups of 3, a 4th bad shot is the start of the next group of 3.)
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To: stylin19a
Seems ok to me as we get the final say so.

You're right...analogies can be changed all night.

It has always given me a twinge of discomfort, however, that a strict majority of people must live with a constitution which they did not create and which they cannot change on their own. Rather, the majority must enlist a portion of the minority to create a super-majority to change the rules devised by long dead people.

In this, I must agree with Thomas Jefferson, who said that constitutions (and laws) should automatically expire, as repeal and expiration are not equivalent:

"Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be, indeed, if every form of government were so perfectly contrived, that the will of the majority could always be obtained, fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves; their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils, bribery corrupts them, personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents; and other impediments arise, so as to prove to every practical man, that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:459, Papers 15:396
39 posted on 05/02/2007 4:49:09 PM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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