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1000 Duke Students Demand Apology from Group of 88
Duke Chronicle via KC Johnson ^ | 5/1/07

Posted on 05/02/2007 9:30:09 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: Badeye
Here’s hoping nobody told the 1,000 students to hold their collective breath waiting for an apology

No, no, no, no. You don't ask for an apology from a jackass in order to hear an apology. You ask for it in order to underline the silence that follows. You get the air-time all to yourself, and get to raise the issues just as you want to.

And perhaps you make wanted posters out of their faces.

81 posted on 05/02/2007 1:46:21 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Doctor Raoul

“And if it’s a white Christian penis that smokes, not only is it guilty, but it’s got to stand out side in the winter.”

Ha!

Seriously, we are not too far from a mindset where we just line up smokers and shoot them.

This being the case whether they’ve inflicted the unprecedented horrors of their secondhand smoke on others or not. Its just because they’re...you know..........smokers.....


82 posted on 05/02/2007 1:52:19 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: BOBWADE

ping


83 posted on 05/02/2007 2:49:51 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: freespirited

This one has the potential to become one of the best shows any of us have ever seen, i.e. billion dollar lawsuits against Duke and Durham and a hundred or so million dollar suits against individuals. It would end up with the entire leftist power structure at a major university basically annihilated.


84 posted on 05/02/2007 2:54:52 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Bob J

was outraged by the arrogant and presumptive proclamation by 88 members of the Duke University after they took out an ad in a campus newspaper connecting the accused Duke La Crosse players with intimidation and racism.

Accordingly, I sent two group emails to the Duke 88. The only response I received was from one Paula McClain, who among her other offices is the Co-Director, Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity
and Gender in the Social Sciences at Duke. Below is the second iteration of the two messages that I sent.

The Duke Rape case is a crystallization (pardon the pun) of all the corruption to the rule of law, linear reasoning and the presumption of innocence engendered by political correctness and Cultural Marxism (particularly that personified by campus professorial elites) .

It has added a new phrase to the lexicon: To be Nifonged. The egregious conduct of Nifong will be addressed in other venues. As an Illinois state policeman for 28 years, I can say with near complete confidence that a case like this with these facts would never have passed Felony Review with even the WORST State’s Attorney that I ever dealt with.

The most important lesson to be gleaned from this is that Tawana Brawley Syndrome is no substitute for a proper analysis of the objective facts. I LOVE to see liberals like you hoisted on the petard of Political Correctness, racial identity politics, gender determinint feminism and what I have coined as “Tawana Brawley Syndrome”.

TBS exists when one takes a historical reality such as the marginalization of innocent blacks within a once overtly racist criminal justice system or the past subjugation of women or any number of other offenses and attempts to apply that to a contemporary situation wherein the objective facts don’t apply; ala OJ Simpson, Rodney King, Anita Hill etc. In the Brawley case, Al Sharpton was continually referencing the “400 years” of unrequited oppression for black women and their inability to obtain redress within a racist criminal justice system. The fact is that had absolutely nothing to do with the Tawana Brawley case.

None of this would have happened if an unscrupulous DA had not chosen to exploit racial identity politics using an apparently mentally ill woman for his political gain, and if the Duke 88, the Durham black community, the radical feminists, and the racial grievance industry merchants had sifted thru the facts objectively and not attempted to stuff them into lurid post modern meta-narratives of privileged white male elites sexually exploiting black women. But than the attendant historical overtones of plantation sexual abuse were probably too much for them to resist. I have increasingly noted that fact and truth present no barrier to the fanatical Cultural Marxist.

My question now is this: Will all those who stampeded to rush to judge and vilify these innocent men now arrange a meeting with them, ala Imus to apologize and create a genuine aura of “healing”? I hope so but I don’t think so, because often being a liberal means never having to say you’re sorry.

Aside from the fact that petty tyrants like you have turned US college campuses into little ivy covered North Koreas, I suspect that you were seeking to appropriate PC bonus points and obtain instant moral authority by championing the cause of the “other” (marginalized black exotic dancer) against racist male chauvinist members of the privileged white elite. A case of cultural Marxist Class warfare that boomeranged. GOD how I love it so!!!!!

Even though I despise the racial identity politics that mindlessly multicultural cultural Marxists like you have fostered amongst my people to our ultimate detriment, I would like to state that I am a black man living in the heart of Chicago’s South Side ghetto, who values the rule of law and truth as best as it can be objectively and humanly determined.

It would be fitting if they get a pretty penny from you.

I got the response below:

Your continued messages have now moved into the realm of harassment and
I have reported you to your service provider for using abusive and
inappropriate language in your email which was sent through their servers.

Paula D. McClain
Professor of Political Science
Professor of Public Policy
Department of Political Science
Co-Director, Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity
and Gender in the Social Sciences
Duke University

Accordingly, I responded as follows

I was unaware that the 2 emails that I sent to you had caused you such distress. I wish to tender my apologies and desire to assure you that you shall receive no further messages from me. But since you are a college professor I was acting upon the putative assumption that universities are about the exchange of ideas, and I thought that my admittedly critically gloating message might prompt a suitable rejoinder. My missive was harsh, yes even severe. But it does contain concepts and ideas that however offensive ought to provoke a suitably barbed retort rather than a threat of server censorship.

Alas, I shall have to reconsider the notion that the campus is about the free exchange of ideas. But this is precisely what I was getting at in my email. If you can ever manage to free yourself from leftist dogmatic doctrine maybe you will realize that.

This is the best evidence of the thought policing that must be extant on all too many college campuses. If she can threaten me with this, someone unconnected with Duke University, just imagine the ax that she wields over any dissenting students!!!! Political Correctness is the intellectual scourge of our time and the worst threat to academic freedom that I have ever seen.


85 posted on 05/02/2007 7:48:39 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: freespirited

Good on ‘em! I hope they keep the pressure on the university & the Gang of 88.


86 posted on 05/02/2007 7:50:48 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Dante3

Absolutely. I don’t see how the university can even begin to move forward until Brodhead is gone. A pandering weakling should not be in his position. He should leave in the shame he brought on himself & Duke & take the 88 with him.


87 posted on 05/02/2007 7:55:05 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
IF the 88 have any sense of honor, that should sting.

If these flaming anuses had any sense of honor they would never have been part of the Group of 88 in the first place. It astounds me that Duke even has an incoming class for next year.

88 posted on 05/02/2007 8:05:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DMZFrank
Post her email address...Everyone on this board can send her a separate response. That’ll fix her liberal red wagon!
89 posted on 05/02/2007 8:23:26 PM PDT by DEM-SPOILER
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To: DEM-SPOILER

pmcclain@duke.edu


90 posted on 05/02/2007 8:26:15 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: freespirited

This demand for an apology is really going to put Broadhead between a rock and a hard place. If he and the hate mongering group of 88 do offer an apology, it will be used against them in court. Broadhead was asked by the press if he was going to apologize and he very ungraciously said no, that he didn’t feel that he had anything to apologize for and besides there are people who are trying to get money from this institution and some of the professors.

I bet that he doesn’t even respond.


91 posted on 05/02/2007 8:33:22 PM PDT by Eva
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To: freespirited

A cancer pervades our universities, including Duke. That is the tenure system. Probably the awful eighty eight are untouchable because of tenure. We MUST eliminate this from our universities because professors are not accountable. Alumni should stop contributing to Duke and push to change the makeup of the governing board.


92 posted on 05/02/2007 8:45:01 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: freespirited
I like how it names names.

They shouldn't be demanding an apology though but their firings.

93 posted on 05/02/2007 8:47:25 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: freespirited
Prof. Houston Baker’s claim of “Young, white, violent, drunken men among us - implicitly boasted by our athletic directors and administrators - have injured lives,” and his remark that the lacrosse team “may well feel they can claim innocence and sport their disgraced jerseys on campus, safe under the cover of silent whiteness. But where is the black woman who their violence and raucous witness injured for life? Will she ever sleep well again?”

She should be having trouble sleeping in jail.

Prof. Mark Anthony Neal’s claim that, “”Regardless of what happened inside of 610 N. Buchanan Blvd, the young men were hoping to consume something that they felt that a black woman uniquely possessed.”

As I recall, the players request was for white or Hispanic "dancers".

94 posted on 05/02/2007 9:24:33 PM PDT by Razz Barry (,i)
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To: freespirited
Professor Houston Baker has already skeedaddled for Vanderbilt U, as was reported earlier this winter. Good luck getting an apology out of him.

The other minstrel clown, Prof. Mark Anthony Neal, only teaches 'Black History' and write books entitled 'Niggerology' (No joke). Certainly not a person to take seriously, as his handful of students are only the black kids with self-esteem issues.

As I'm sure that you all are aware, 'Low self esteem' rhymes with 'Raheem'.

No black student with a lick of sense spends hundreds of dollars per unit to enroll in 'Aww, Cuz Ah'm BLACK, Y'all 101' unless they need a quick 'A' from the professor just because they're black.

Only idiot white liberal students take Black History courses and learn a valuable lesson when they receive a 'C-' grade no matter how well they perform with the coursework.

95 posted on 05/02/2007 9:58:59 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: SamuraiScot

Fair points all.


96 posted on 05/03/2007 5:47:54 AM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: freespirited
The Duke 88 (Bumped w/ Contact Info)
97 posted on 05/03/2007 5:50:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: edcoil
"revenge is a dish, best served cold."

And, force fed from the opposite end...

98 posted on 05/08/2007 9:10:25 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
"IF the 88 have any sense of honor, that should sting."

This bunch of racist, moronic feckless imbeciles lacks more than honor...

Duke and Durham have been exposed as an incompetent, racist, rabble raising LYNCH MOB -- undeserving of the respect earned by a once admired University...and University town..

Duke need a SEVERE pruning of rotted and diseased growth -- starting at the top....with President Brodhead...

99 posted on 05/26/2007 7:04:34 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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