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Digg losing control of their site (HD-DVD encryption keys were posted)
InfoWorld ^
| May 1, 2007
| Kevin Railsback
Posted on 05/01/2007 8:58:23 PM PDT by HAL9000
Excerpt -
The folks at Digg.com have let the social news genie out of the bottle, and now they can't control it. Since the HD-DVD encryption code was discovered and published, readers at Digg have been repeatedly submitting stories with the 16 digit hex code in the titles and bodies. Just as quickly as these posts crawl up the Digg charts, admins seem to be deleting them. Just search Google for 09 F9 and you'll find the key. Will AACS send a Cease and Desist to InfoWorld because I posted the text "09 F9"? If so, we might as well give up on this whole Internet thing right here and now.
Can a simple, short string of numbers and letters (the full key) really be copyrighted? And is Digg.com receiving a proper takedown notice for each case, or are they taking things into their own hands and deleting posts willy-nilly?
The same sort of thing happened when the DeCSS code came out - I even have a t-shirt with the code printed on it. This just goes to show how useless the DMCA is, and how information cannot be controlled, and that DRM will never truly work.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: aacs; bluray; copyprotection; crack; decryption; digg; dmca; drm; encryption; hddvd; hollywoodlawyers; mpaa
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To: budman_2001
Interesting though, that if you visit the Infoworld story, you can see the Digg counter.Then click the Digg counter, and you are back in (perhaps needing to be a member to do this).
The place has gone totally to the loons.
An interesting example of the social-networking website run amok.
To: HAL9000
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
“The MPAA (or whoever) is telling Digg to take down those stories.
They have the authority to do this thanks to the DMCA.
The DMCA is a law enacted by who? That’s right, the government of the United States of America.
So who is threatening the people who run Digg with jail time? That’s right, the United States of America.
How is that not censorship?”
-some other nerd at slashdot(quantamg)
62
posted on
05/01/2007 10:53:39 PM PDT
by
s2baccha
To: budman_2001
Rose and Adelman have got to be a little verklempt right now.
63
posted on
05/01/2007 10:53:48 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Fred.)
To: catbertz
You said — “Digg just went offline lolz”
—
Look at this last comment on their blog....
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Digg This: 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
by Kevin Rose at 9pm, May 1st, 2007 in Digg Website
Today was an insane day. And as the founder of Digg, I just wanted to post my thoughts
In building and shaping the site Ive always tried to stay as hands on as possible. Weve always given site moderation (digging/burying) power to the community. Occasionally we step in to remove stories that violate our terms of use (eg. linking to pornography, illegal downloads, racial hate sites, etc.). So today was a difficult day for us. We had to decide whether to remove stories containing a single code based on a cease and desist declaration. We had to make a call, and in our desire to avoid a scenario where Digg would be interrupted or shut down, we decided to comply and remove the stories with the code.
But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, youve made it clear. Youd rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we wont delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be.
If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying.
Digg on,
Kevin
To: Petronski
Today was an insane day. And as the founder of Digg, I just wanted to post my thoughts
In building and shaping the site Ive always tried to stay as hands on as possible. Weve always given site moderation (digging/burying) power to the community. Occasionally we step in to remove stories that violate our terms of use (eg. linking to pornography, illegal downloads, racial hate sites, etc.). So today was a difficult day for us. We had to decide whether to remove stories containing a single code based on a cease and desist declaration. We had to make a call, and in our desire to avoid a scenario where Digg would be interrupted or shut down, we decided to comply and remove the stories with the code.
But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, youve made it clear. Youd rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we wont delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be.
If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying.
Digg on,
Kevin digg this story
65
posted on
05/01/2007 10:55:46 PM PDT
by
catbertz
To: Star Traveler
haha nice! I was clicking send when you posted the same thing. :w00t:
66
posted on
05/01/2007 10:57:09 PM PDT
by
catbertz
To: Petronski
You said — “Theoretically, it would be a DMCA circumvention method/device in any form in which it could be represented.”
—
If so, that concept is bordering on “thought control” and makes us a lot closer to the “1984” story....
Did you see where digg.com gave up and is no longer censoring this any longer. They said they will “go down with the ship” (so to speak), if it’s necessary...
To: catbertz
68
posted on
05/01/2007 10:58:00 PM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: catbertz
ahhh..., what an Internet world we are in.... :-)
To: Star Traveler
I can’t wait for next week’s Diggnation, or as it is now called 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0-nation.
It will just be a drunk Kevin Rose surrounded by empty liquor bottles, lying in a pool of his own vomit, repeating “I used to be worth $60 million, $60 million...” over and over again.
(For those who don’t know, Diggnation is a podcast featuring Kevin Rose, creator of Digg and Alex Albrecht, an out of work actor talking about the top stories on Digg. It is fun to listen to since they usually get pretty drunk while recording the show.)
70
posted on
05/01/2007 11:00:20 PM PDT
by
MediaMole
(9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
To: Star Traveler
Their servers are listing hard to starboard, and she’s down as much as ten degrees at the stern.
71
posted on
05/01/2007 11:00:55 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Fred.)
To: MediaMole; cyborg
(For those who dont know, Diggnation is a podcast featuring Kevin Rose, creator of Digg and Alex Albrecht, an out of work actor talking about the top stories on Digg. It is fun to listen to since they usually get pretty drunk while recording the show.)Listen to?
Download the video version. It's even better.
72
posted on
05/01/2007 11:01:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Fred.)
To: MediaMole
Kevin Rose is frantically swapping his stocks for real property even as we speak, tickets to Mexico clutched in his sweaty hand...
73
posted on
05/01/2007 11:02:00 PM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: B-Chan
Now, this thing has gotten even more bizarre. I don't know if this is for real....but this one on the top of the list now....
To: MediaMole
Actually, if Mr. Rose is truly worth 60m, he might just be able to put up a heck of a defense against the DCMA thugs.
Sure, they can crush a 14 year old who shares MP3s, but someone who can afford a bit of publicity as well as decent attorneys is a different and much more vicious animal when cornered.
Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Shysters of War!
75
posted on
05/01/2007 11:05:06 PM PDT
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
To: HAL9000
blog.digg.com -
Digg This: 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
by Kevin Rose at 9pm, May 1st, 2007 in Digg Website
Today was an insane day. And as the founder of Digg, I just wanted to post my thoughts
In building and shaping the site Ive always tried to stay as hands on as possible. Weve always given site moderation (digging/burying) power to the community. Occasionally we step in to remove stories that violate our terms of use (eg. linking to pornography, illegal downloads, racial hate sites, etc.). So today was a difficult day for us. We had to decide whether to remove stories containing a single code based on a cease and desist declaration. We had to make a call, and in our desire to avoid a scenario where Digg would be interrupted or shut down, we decided to comply and remove the stories with the code.
But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, youve made it clear. Youd rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we wont delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be.
If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying.
Digg on,
Kevin
The HD-DVD encryption key is now in the public domain, for all practical purposes. This may be a watershed event in dismantling DRM.
Undoubtably, there are a bunch of unhappy Hollywood lawyers plotting their revenge tonight. They'll order their K Street lobbyists to contact every Senator and Congressman tomorrow, demanding harsher penalties for copyright laws.
76
posted on
05/01/2007 11:05:24 PM PDT
by
HAL9000
(Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
To: budman_2001
I wonder if JimRob, JohnRob and others are studying? Certainly is worth watching. LOL on this one.
To: Dr.Zoidberg
DCMA = DMCA or whatever.
The mob is the mob no matter how it’s spelled.
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posted on
05/01/2007 11:06:21 PM PDT
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
To: Petronski
This isn’t even a hunk of programming that offers functionality, like decss was ruled to be. I wouldn’t be able to decode a DVD without also writing a program that uses this infamous code, and wouldn’t that part be protected by patent?
To: budman_2001
I know Rose supposedly owns 60% of Digg, but exactly what form does that ownership take? Digg is a partnership — do the owners own actual stock, share profits on a percentage basis, or what? (Note: as far as I know, Digg has yet to actually break even.) In any case, if I were him, I’d be cashing in my chips about now. The question is: does he actually have any chips, or is it all just vaporwealth?
80
posted on
05/01/2007 11:09:59 PM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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