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Petraeus vs. Hagel (RINO Alert)
American Thinker ^ | May 1, 2007 | Ray Robison

Posted on 05/01/2007 4:48:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

May 01, 2007

Gen. David Petraeus recently returned from Iraq to brief the leaders of our government about the war there. Perhaps most notably, he took direct aim at the "Iraq is in a civil war" mantra of the media and Democratic leaders by stating that "80 percent to 90 percent of the suicide attacks" - the spectacular car bombings racking up the horrific fatalities - are carried out by foreign fighters who are al Qaeda members or affiliated with al Qaeda.

At nearly the same time, Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) sat down at an interview with Robert Novak for the Washington Post. The Senator just returning from another trip to Iraq brings bad news. He sides with Democrats in determining the war in Iraq is a losing effort against sectarian violence with US forces stuck in the middle. The Senator claims that al Qaeda is only responsible for "maybe 10 percent" of the violence. He says "Iraq is not embroiled in a terrorist war today." By contrast, General Petraeus says "Iraq is, in fact, the central front of al Qaeda's global campaign and we devote considerable resources to the fight against al Qaeda Iraq."

This condition of contrasting views is aggravated by the fact that the Senator is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Which begs the question: where is Senator Hagel getting the military intelligence to form his opinion if not from the senior uniformed military commander of the war? Who is telling him that al Qaeda is not the central opponent or the leader of the anti-Iraqi forces? Did he derive his viewpoint from military briefings? Or does it come from other, more political, considerations?

The Senator doesn't say in his Novak interview. In fact, he presents almost no specific information to support his views. But we can evaluate the claims of both men based on free press and military reporting from Iraq.

American Forces Press Service (AFPS) reports that a senior al Qaeda leader who was closely associated with Usama bin Laden was recently transferred to Gitmo after being picked up some time late last year. He was captured while traveling to Iraq to direct the al Qaeda efforts there in late 2006. (He is also a former Iraqi army officer, a fact that fits nicely with the research that ties Saddam and al Qaeda together in my new eBook, Both In One Trench: Saddam's support to the global Islamic jihad movement and international terrorism.)

But perhaps six or seven months ago is not timely enough, and the Senator was talking about more recent developments. Did al Qaeda pack up and leave Iraq since then? Dated April 29th, 2007 AFPS reports that twenty one al Qaeda terrorists were taken into custody in actions against that terrorist network.

Our friends certainly think Iraq is a central front for al Qaeda. Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer just responded to another horrific car bombing by stating,

"This is a deliberate attempt by al-Qaeda to incite sectarian violence in Iraq and it's very important that the international community understands what al-Qaeda's tactics are."

The Iraqi government seems to think al Qaeda is the chief opponent. It worries in this Reuters article that the political infighting in the US is being exploited by al Qaeda.

Even al Qaeda seems to think al Qaeda is responsible for the worst of the violence as evidenced by dozens of recent news article - such as this one from the AP, which is also notable because it refers to al Qaeda as an "insurgent group". Just search the phrase "al Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility" under Google News and you will find dozens of references to al Qaeda claiming responsibility for the worst attacks.

It would appear that our military, our allies, the Iraqi government and even al Qaeda itself believes that Iraq is the central front in the war against al Qaeda. At the other end of the spectrum is the Democratic leadership and Senator Chuck Hagel, oh yes, and certain media outlets, which insist we have set off a civil war with al Qaeda responsible for a minor share of violence.

Given the opportunity the Senator has had to influence the review of prewar intelligence, it is more than a little disconcerting that he has ignored our own military intelligence, allies and the admission of the enemy, in determining his stance.

Ray Robison is co-author of the book Both in One Trench, a blogger, and a frequent contributor to American Thinker.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; defeaticans; hagel; iraqwar; patraeus
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Ray Robison lays out a pretty good case that Hagel is either lying or is grossly misinformed.
1 posted on 05/01/2007 4:48:42 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Hagel is a mental midget. Unfair fight.


2 posted on 05/01/2007 4:52:07 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jazusamo

Schmuck Hagel is a disgrace to the Republican party.


3 posted on 05/01/2007 4:54:56 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Tabi Katz

I can’t believe he hasn,t switched parties.


4 posted on 05/01/2007 4:58:21 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

General Petraeus vs. Senator Betrayus


5 posted on 05/01/2007 4:59:36 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (A proud member of the Frederalist society. Watchin the trolls, go trollin, trollin, trollin)
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To: jazusamo
Hagel has primary competition, if he runs for the Senate again.

Jon Bruning

6 posted on 05/01/2007 5:02:58 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (A proud member of the Frederalist society. Watchin the trolls, go trollin, trollin, trollin)
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To: jazusamo

I sure hope that Hagel retires.


7 posted on 05/01/2007 5:04:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: NeoCaveman

I read about Jon Bruning several days ago, he’s going to get support from me.


8 posted on 05/01/2007 5:05:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If he doesn’t, he’s going to have a fight on his hands.


9 posted on 05/01/2007 5:08:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

It would be a nightmare if it came down to Hagel and any of the Al-dimocRATS.


10 posted on 05/01/2007 5:10:11 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: smoothsailing; Just A Nobody; RedRover; freema

Ping...Robison stings Hagel pretty good.


11 posted on 05/01/2007 5:14:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Kucinich/Hagel in ‘08.


12 posted on 05/01/2007 5:15:47 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

LOL! Sounds good for a fourth party ticket.


13 posted on 05/01/2007 5:17:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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I can’t believe he hasn,t switched parties.

Wonder what it would take to force him out.

14 posted on 05/01/2007 5:22:10 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: jazusamo

Those empowered to discern the Truth (The New York Times) almost certainly will back Chuck Hagel (Democrat-Nebraska) because of his superior partisan affiliation despite his stupidity so profound that he still fails to recognize this affiliation. The Incarnation of Satan—the disgraced, soon-to-be-impeached Dick Cheney—therefore must demoniacally possess all persons whom other sources wrongly attribute to al-Qaeda.


15 posted on 05/01/2007 5:23:20 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: jazusamo

I wish he would switch parties!


16 posted on 05/01/2007 5:31:36 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: jazusamo

Amazing story.
Who do you trust?
Definitely NOT the pandering politician!


17 posted on 05/01/2007 5:47:08 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: jazusamo

Look, when it comes to our war policy we need to defer to a senator who went on a tour as a posed to the commanding general. /s


18 posted on 05/01/2007 5:57:34 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: NeoCaveman

That made me smile bigtime! Thank you!

LLS


19 posted on 05/01/2007 5:58:11 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I stole that one from El Rushbo


20 posted on 05/01/2007 6:10:55 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (A proud member of the Frederalist society.)
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