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Civilization Depends On A Stable Climate
Knox News ^ | John Krist

Posted on 04/28/2007 3:01:17 PM PDT by blam

Civilization depends on a stable climate

By JOHN KRIST
April 26, 2007

If you were to able to travel back in time 50,000 years, abduct a paleolithic hunter from a river valley in southern France and haul him back to 21st century America, would he stand out in a crowd? Depends on the crowd. He probably wouldn't blend in very well at the New York Stock Exchange. But dress him in shorts and flip-flops, hand him a backpack and he could probably stroll across any college campus in the country without attracting attention.

Human beings who lived 500 centuries ago were fully modern, virtually indistinguishable from us in fundamental ways. Their brains and bodies were physically the same as ours. They created sophisticated art - murals, paintings, sculptures - and buried their dead in a fashion that suggests they possessed ceremonial or religious traditions. They had developed the technology and navigational skills required to travel across broad expanses of ocean.

Paleolithic hunter-gatherers did not, however, domesticate plants or animals on a large scale. Nor did they live in large, sedentary communities. No one did until about 10,000 years ago when, suddenly and in multiple locations around the globe, agriculture and cities appear in the archaeological record.

The relatively abrupt and simultaneous rise of farming and urban settlement patterns suggest that the capacity to develop such innovations had been part of humankind's intellectual and behavioral bag of tricks for a long time.

That capacity had lain dormant, however, awaiting some sort of catalyst to unleash it.

There's a pretty good theory as to what that catalyst might have been. If valid, it's potentially bad news for the well-groomed, suit-wearing descendants of paleolithic cave painters.

This was one of the secondary but intriguing points made last week during the penultimate in a series of global warming programs at UC Santa Barbara.

Thursday night's lecture and panel discussion featured journalist and author Elizabeth Kolbert, who turned her award-winning series of articles on climate change for the New Yorker into a book featured this spring in a campus-wide reading program.

At about the same time that agriculture and urbanization appear in the archaeological record, the Earth entered a period of climate stability not seen at any time in the preceding 400,000 years. That's the span of time for which scientists have the most detailed record of global temperatures and atmospheric conditions, derived from the isotopic signature of frozen water and the chemistry of trapped air bubbles in ice cores pulled from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets.

What those ice cores reveal is a pattern of profound climatic instability during most of modern humanity's time on Earth. Every 100,000 years or so, the climate would begin to cool, probably the result of a recurring pattern in Earth's orbit around the sun. Ice sheets would grow, glaciers would advance and sea level would drop. Eventually, however, the climate would begin to heat up, at first slowly and then rapidly, the warming continuing until terminated by onset of another ice age.

Roughly 10,000 years ago, however, the pattern changed. Temperatures reached approximately the same high point that they had reached before each of the three previous ice ages, but then held fairly steady, with minor fluctuations.

And it is in that brief window of temperature stability that modern civilization was born and has flourished. It is entirely plausible that until then, human populations were forced to move so frequently to follow climate-driven shifts in food and water supplies that they could not develop social and technological systems requiring permanence.

About 150 years ago, modern humans began unintentionally tinkering with the climate system, setting in motion a trend toward warmer temperatures - higher than any in the experience of our species - that threatens to end this period of stability. The consequences may prove merely inconvenient for the richest nations, but for hundreds of millions of people in countries that lack the wealth and institutional capacity to adapt, the changes are likely to prove disastrous as food supplies collapse, fresh water becomes scarce and low-lying lands are inundated by rising seas.

There's a grim symmetry to this theory - that human beings had to wait for a period of climate stability before they could develop the technology to destabilize the climate. And it offers a rather dismal prognosis for the future, which Kolbert expressed this way:

"An organism that depends on stability, but produces instability, can only survive for so long."


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To: Little Bill

What’s the Eurasian Step? Is that a dance?

Perhaps you mean the steppe.


21 posted on 04/28/2007 4:20:55 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"Elizabeth Kolbert, “climate journalist” . . ."

Um, did that appellation used to be "Elizabeth Kolbert, “girl journalist”?

Sorry I missed her explanation of the global warming on Mars. Caused by too much gasbag activity on Earth?

22 posted on 04/28/2007 4:24:13 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten these.)
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To: blam

Let’s create a “stable climate tax”. /sarc


23 posted on 04/28/2007 4:24:59 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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To: docbnj

I abase myself. Covering my head in shame at a spelling error.


24 posted on 04/28/2007 4:33:24 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: blam
Civilization depends on a stable climate.

It is far more dependent upon decent leadership. I don't think we have any hope.

25 posted on 04/28/2007 4:50:46 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: blam
I could handle paleolithic babes like this:


26 posted on 04/28/2007 5:32:15 PM PDT by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
the author is proof that some Neanderthals have survived to this day.

that, sir, is a libelous disservice to the reputation of the Neanderthal
27 posted on 04/28/2007 5:35:14 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: blam
Hey John Krist you buffoonish clown, explain to me who was driving SUVs, operating electrical power plants, etc., and "destabilizing" our climate 130,000 years ago during the last large global warming period.


28 posted on 04/28/2007 5:39:10 PM PDT by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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To: blam

More BS from this bunch of mint cherries.


29 posted on 04/28/2007 5:46:07 PM PDT by TBP
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To: blam
I don't have so much issues with the quote that you cited.

From the article cited:

About 150 years ago, modern humans began unintentionally tinkering with the climate system, setting in motion a trend toward warmer temperatures - higher than any in the experience of our species - that threatens to end this period of stability.
This is an assertation. Everything that follows is of non-consequence.
"An organism that depends on stability, but produces instability, can only survive for so long."
Without doubt the author has never heard of the truism that correlation does not establish causation.

Quite frankly, I could have abusive fun with that person and they'd probably willingly check into rehab after our "discussion". Without doubt, I'm certain I'd be picked up as being a threat to the State for throwing uncouched ideas around "willy-nilly and akin to discharge of a firearm within a crowd that causes no physical harm."

Quite frankly it matters not if the person ended up a blubbering idiot that knew not what reality was, or if they were convinced that I'd taken an extract out of my AID's infected veins and shot them full of my AID's jiz. That I don't have AID's is irrelevent and immaterial, and incidentally not even germane. Making somebody feel bad, or lose direction, focus and perspective is a capital offenze.

Without doubt I certain to come to a bad end.

Anyways, I'm guessing that other than the author's emotional quackary, nothing else really matters. I'd like to see this person and a Flat Earther get it on.

Wait.

Scratch that...

30 posted on 04/28/2007 5:55:09 PM PDT by raygun (Freepmail me if you're a venture capitalist interested to finance my gay robot invention.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Elizabeth Kolbert looks like the stereotypical lib woman: No smile, androgynous face, and a Haircut by Hatchet. She puts earrings on both ears so people will think she's a woman.


31 posted on 04/28/2007 5:59:13 PM PDT by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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To: blam
It is entirely plausible that until then, human populations were forced to move so frequently to follow climate-driven shifts in food and water supplies that they could not develop social and technological systems requiring permanence.

How about: they had no need since population wasn't dense enough to require intensive cultivation?

32 posted on 04/28/2007 6:53:36 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: HighWheeler

Was Nova in Planet of the Apes post-paleolithic? Anyway, I hope she’s saving herself for me in the future.


33 posted on 04/28/2007 6:56:55 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Grilled cheese sandwiches are delicious.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam.

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34 posted on 04/28/2007 8:33:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, April 28, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: brytlea
Interesting that thirty years ago, the conventional wisdom had it that we were about to enter a new ice age. All is this is based on computer models, not the accumulation of data.
35 posted on 04/28/2007 8:40:48 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

I remember the coming ice age! Oops...I guess I just let the cat out of the bag....I’m old! hehehe
susie


36 posted on 04/28/2007 8:58:28 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

The ZPG crowd has a new rationalize forreducung the number of humans. Then it was that people would eat up all the available food and starve. Now it is that they eat too much,


37 posted on 04/28/2007 9:05:32 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

They just hate people.
susie


38 posted on 04/29/2007 5:51:17 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: blam

It’s a moronic conclusion. If ice ages are what drove humans to continual migrations, then human induced global warming would be a GOOD thing.


39 posted on 04/29/2007 8:44:46 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: brytlea
They just hate people.

Yep. Because they hate themselves, they extend that hatred to their entire species. The most extreme example is this:

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement - "May we live long and die out"


40 posted on 04/29/2007 10:54:32 AM PDT by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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