Posted on 04/27/2007 7:42:49 AM PDT by areafiftyone
At a fund-raiser this morning in Manhattan, Rudy Giuliani said that lessons for solving the chaotic situation in Iraq could be found in how he kicked the mob out of New York, and that healthcare, like plasma TVs, would become affordable if opened to a free market, according to an account from one donor present at the meeting.
According to Jonine Bernstein, a Memorial Sloan-Kettering epidemiologist who was among more than 100 donors attending the morning meeting at the Yale Club, Giuliani spoke about matters of defense, health care, Israel and Homeland Security allocations at the closed door meeting. Rudy Washington, who has suffered health problems in connection to the terrorist attacks, was in attendance, as was former state Senator Roy Goodman.
He also spoke about the war in Iraq, a subject he hasn't exactly been eager to discuss in depth so far in the race.
On that subject, Bernstein said, "he gave the analogy of what he did to clean up New York City and root out the mob."
Bernstein described his Iraq comments this way:
"In the past people had gone after individual families, but then, sure enough you go after one member, the other four or five or six families are sitting there really relieved. But when he was mayor he got them where it hurt, at the point of their production; laundering money and strong-arming people. He gave that analogy to Iraq, and talking about the terrorists and how it's everywhere and how we have to take it as a whole unit, and not just cherry pick."
The conclusion, according to Bernstein: "His whole point is that we are on the offense. The terrorists are attacking us, so we have to continue with that approach instead of just sitting and waiting. We have to go forward."
She added, "He was talking about doing a frontline approach."
Bernstein described the audience, which was gathered around about 10 tables, as "captivated."
"There wasn't one person on their BlackBerrys and they were all lawyers," she said.
Giuliani also employed an analogy to explain his idea for healthcare.
"He gave this analogy about plasma TVs," said Bernstein. "He said that in the very beginning plasma TVs were so expensive and only very few people could afford it. And now with greater volume and greater demand the price has dropped, and that could be a model for healthcare -- in the sense of privatization of healthcare. That if the government keeps supporting the healthcare industry it would just crush us."
There was also a question about Homeland Security funds.
"Somebody asked him how he would appropriate Homeland Security funds to New York City compared to everywhere else and he made a parallel to the Yankees," she said.
"He said somebody once asked him to be commissioner of baseball and he said he couldn’t do it because he would give everything to the Yankees."
But when he got around to answering the question, she described Giuliani as "very open-minded."
"He said that while he thinks the big major centers need a lot of protection he wouldn't ignore the smaller places. For example, in Pennsylvania, where flight 93 went down, that the school almost got hurt.
"He made some analogies that actually everything has to be all beefed up around the country and it's not just the major centers that are known targets. That you need to have the preparedness.
From there Giuliani segued into a discussion about Katrina, in which he expressed frustration about the government's response and that it raised questions about the country's homeland security preparedness.
The crowd’s attention was most rapt when Giuliani spoke about 9/11, an area in which the crowd of New Yorkers was intimately aware of his involvement. "So, he doesn't have to say much in that regard," Bernstein said. "But he did. He spoke about it."
You still here, and still making some crazy off the wall posts too. Get back on your meds, NOW! LOL
Taking on the Rudy forces is fine. I’ve done that quite regularly, as well. Lost a few former FRiends, apparently. But I’ve got more than a few Rudy fans to implode and more than a few to ditch him.
LOL Nope, just a conservative battling you butthead liberals at every opportunity. And we will knock Rudy off.
Truth should never be a bannable offense, IMHO. Only a crazy person or uninformed person would say that Giuliani and Hillary, or Obama, would prosecute the WOT as well as the other. The last two would not prosecute it well, or at all for that matter. They would dismantle everything that has been done since 9/11, waive the white flag, and then spit on our troops.
LOL!! I hope you find comfort in knowing that I support Fred Thompson for President. I confess I am a Norwegian, but I’m not a “nutbar”. ;)
BTT
LOL! I doubt that very much! But enjoy your fantasy. Now back to the real world...
LOL You keep digging yourself into a deeper hole with almost every post you make. Rudy will get whats coming to him and FR will have a hand in his final demise. That’s a fact!
I don’t know, did you see that Pat Buchanon said that Hillary Clinton was “Reaganesque”?
Rudy better watch out, Hillary is out-Reaganing him......
;-)
disclaimer: I do not endorse the thoughts of Pat Buchanon, and I reject the comparison he made, so please don’t ban me... :-}
ROFLMAO! Now THAT is funny!
(Reagan Man)'s the guy who went me yesterday.
Glad to hear I have company out there.
He’s a angry young man - but I respect his hard edge.
He has his rights - hope he allows me my own.
Having commented at length and personally about RM, Jake now says:
You’re a classic example.
I hereby release myself from ever commenting to your posts in the future.
Try to find some happiness my friend - life is to short to spend it looking for conflict.
Adios.
As if commenting on a person who isn't even posting in the thread at the time isn't "looking for conflict".
I find that if I want to ignore another poster, it usually works better if I don't call him out without provocation in my own posts.
And if I DO mention them, I ping them to my post so they can respond. That's called manners, and is part of civil behavior which includes not dragging conflicts from other threads into new threads.
Each thread can generate it's own conflicts.
Of course here there were no conflicts until pro-rudy posters started complaining about how they WOULD get attacked. Kind of a pre-emptive thing, I guess. It's rare to read a pro-rudy thread where the supporters don't complain about being attacked BEFORE anybody shows up to discuss the issues, or where those COMPLAINTS aren't the first thing that cause arguments.
Of course, if I supported Rudy and were posting puff pieces about him, I would want to discourage discussion of the article by distracting people too. If I didn't someone might ask me a substantive question about my candidate and I'd have to go repost the whole thing to get away from them.
FR`s #1 RudyBooster is laughing her a$$ off on the floor -—maybe its just a nervous fit, or the laughter of fear finally setting in. Now that is really funny! In the end you’ll be crying and whining, as most liberals do when they lose an election. I know it upsets you to hear that Rudy will lose, but you’re gonna have to face the facts at some point.
Thanks for the effort -
If Rudy loses the election it won’t be because of FR buddy. The only way he will lose is if he screws up big time. The American people choose the candidates not FR. I thought you figured that one out in 2006? I guess not.
Spoken like FR`s #1 RudyBooster! Congrats! You’re not letting us conservatives down. LOL
If we are still losing 80+/month thru spring and summer, then there will be some kind of change. GW will lose enough Republican support to sustain vetoes on war funding. The result will be redeployment or the beginning of a draw down, imo.
Pay more attention to what is going on in Iraq, and we can discuss it someday.
No, Rudy loses when folks start paying closer attention to his lies, flip flops, and his lifelong liberalism. That is the job of FR to help ensure that happens, not to help sweep it under the rug.
Of course I'm still here, and I'll still be here tomorrow. Note my use of the singular pronoun, "I". I can't help but notice that the majority of your posts these days use "we" and "us", and yet you're calling me crazy? Lol, this stuff just writes itself.
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