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Rudy on Iraq: Like Pre-Rudy NY
New York Observer ^ | 4/27/07

Posted on 04/27/2007 7:42:49 AM PDT by areafiftyone

At a fund-raiser this morning in Manhattan, Rudy Giuliani said that lessons for solving the chaotic situation in Iraq could be found in how he kicked the mob out of New York, and that healthcare, like plasma TVs, would become affordable if opened to a free market, according to an account from one donor present at the meeting.

According to Jonine Bernstein, a Memorial Sloan-Kettering epidemiologist who was among more than 100 donors attending the morning meeting at the Yale Club, Giuliani spoke about matters of defense, health care, Israel and Homeland Security allocations at the closed door meeting. Rudy Washington, who has suffered health problems in connection to the terrorist attacks, was in attendance, as was former state Senator Roy Goodman.

He also spoke about the war in Iraq, a subject he hasn't exactly been eager to discuss in depth so far in the race.

On that subject, Bernstein said, "he gave the analogy of what he did to clean up New York City and root out the mob."

Bernstein described his Iraq comments this way:

"In the past people had gone after individual families, but then, sure enough you go after one member, the other four or five or six families are sitting there really relieved. But when he was mayor he got them where it hurt, at the point of their production; laundering money and strong-arming people. He gave that analogy to Iraq, and talking about the terrorists and how it's everywhere and how we have to take it as a whole unit, and not just cherry pick."

The conclusion, according to Bernstein: "His whole point is that we are on the offense. The terrorists are attacking us, so we have to continue with that approach instead of just sitting and waiting. We have to go forward."

She added, "He was talking about doing a frontline approach."

Bernstein described the audience, which was gathered around about 10 tables, as "captivated."

"There wasn't one person on their BlackBerrys and they were all lawyers," she said.

Giuliani also employed an analogy to explain his idea for healthcare.

"He gave this analogy about plasma TVs," said Bernstein. "He said that in the very beginning plasma TVs were so expensive and only very few people could afford it. And now with greater volume and greater demand the price has dropped, and that could be a model for healthcare -- in the sense of privatization of healthcare. That if the government keeps supporting the healthcare industry it would just crush us."

There was also a question about Homeland Security funds.

"Somebody asked him how he would appropriate Homeland Security funds to New York City compared to everywhere else and he made a parallel to the Yankees," she said.

"He said somebody once asked him to be commissioner of baseball and he said he couldn’t do it because he would give everything to the Yankees."

But when he got around to answering the question, she described Giuliani as "very open-minded."

"He said that while he thinks the big major centers need a lot of protection he wouldn't ignore the smaller places. For example, in Pennsylvania, where flight 93 went down, that the school almost got hurt.

"He made some analogies that actually everything has to be all beefed up around the country and it's not just the major centers that are known targets. That you need to have the preparedness.

From there Giuliani segued into a discussion about Katrina, in which he expressed frustration about the government's response and that it raised questions about the country's homeland security preparedness.

The crowd’s attention was most rapt when Giuliani spoke about 9/11, an area in which the crowd of New Yorkers was intimately aware of his involvement. "So, he doesn't have to say much in that regard," Bernstein said. "But he did. He spoke about it."


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1 posted on 04/27/2007 7:42:52 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

At the risk of attack - I must confess - the 2 times I have seen
Rudy in person - I too was held my his intelligence and his
ability to talk without notes.

Very bright man.


2 posted on 04/27/2007 7:46:05 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone

A bald fellow who dressed like a lass,
Had wee testicles made out of brass.
..When they tinkled together
..They played `Stormy Weather’
And lightning shot out of his ass.


3 posted on 04/27/2007 7:49:25 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: areafiftyone

Rudy (or any GOP nominee) won’t have Iraq to worry about much. Patreaus is gettin her done, big time. This will assure a GOP 08 victory, moreso than any other factor.


4 posted on 04/27/2007 7:49:26 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Jake The Goose

At the risk of getting banned I would like to say Rudy was good to his mother


5 posted on 04/27/2007 7:51:08 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Jake The Goose

Blasphemy!


6 posted on 04/27/2007 7:51:37 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Jake The Goose

Prepare for incoming! ;-)


7 posted on 04/27/2007 7:52:21 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: pissant

Wow - I like they way you think.


8 posted on 04/27/2007 7:53:15 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yeah - I know - it’s like walking on hot coals.....


9 posted on 04/27/2007 7:53:59 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

I was thinking more on the line of having them poured over your head.


10 posted on 04/27/2007 7:55:54 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: areafiftyone
He gave this analogy about plasma TVs," said Bernstein. "He said that in the very beginning plasma TVs were so expensive and only very few people could afford it. And now with greater volume and greater demand the price has dropped, and that could be a model for healthcare --

Except that when things go wrong with your plasma TV, someone does not get sued for millions of dollars.

11 posted on 04/27/2007 7:56:22 AM PDT by outofstyle
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To: areafiftyone

Well, before “Reagan Man” gets me banned I guess I’ll go out on a limb and say Rudy is not the devil and would prosecute the WoT better than hillary or obama, etc.


12 posted on 04/27/2007 7:59:00 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I was thinking more on the line of having them poured over your head.

You rascal - good line - I laughed. Thanks

13 posted on 04/27/2007 8:00:53 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: FreedomNeocon; PSYCHO-FREEP; Jake The Goose

Agree. Man It’s getting hot in here! ;-)


14 posted on 04/27/2007 8:02:04 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: FreedomNeocon

That’s the guy who went me yesterday.

Glad to hear I have company out there.

He’s a angry young man - but I respect his hard edge.

He has his rights - hope he allows me my own.


15 posted on 04/27/2007 8:02:26 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
“Man It’s getting hot in here!”

And it ain’t gonna get any cooler any time soon. As the saying goes, if you can’t take the heat....

16 posted on 04/27/2007 8:10:37 AM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: tumblindice

U R FIRST NOMINEE FOR HELPING HOWARD DEAN MEMORIAL AWARD
(see Druge Report below)

Dean, like all the Dems, understands the electoral reality of Hillary vs. RG. They understand the number of safe Dem states that come in play with RG. For three days, the Dems have been consumed with RG.
They need to everything now to demonize RG. They are counting ... with good reason ... for the more myopic of us in the Republican Party to do their work for them. Sadly, they will find willing co-conspirators who are so obsessed with second tier issues they will count as a victory hurting RG

DNC Dean Says Giuliani’s ‘Personal Life Is A Serious Problem’
Fri Apr 27 2007 09:37:49 ET

Democratic party chairman Howard Dean said on Thursday that Rudy Giuliani “personal life is a serious problem.”

Dean sent the warning on CNN’s SITUATION ROOM with host Wolf Blitzer.

Chariman Dean said the former New York City Mayor “has a lot of character issues that he has to answer for. And overwhelmingly, Americans are going to vote on honesty and integrity.... We’ve begun to reach out to evangelical Christians, and that’s a real problem for him. His personal life is a serious problem for him.”

BLITZER: Well, describe those character issues...

DEAN: No, I’m not going to get into that stuff. I don’t like attacking people on their personal lives, but I can assure you that in the Republican primary, given what went on in the 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina between George Bush and John McCain, those attacks will be made in the Republican Party.

Developing...


17 posted on 04/27/2007 8:11:08 AM PDT by fredalan
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To: dmw

whatever!


18 posted on 04/27/2007 8:14:27 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Jake The Goose
I guess you didn't see where he said he would put all the effort to combat terrorists into NYC, or at least the money for it. He doesn't consider our borders in need of guarding any more than Bush does. If we don't shut them off at the borders of this country we are not going to win anything except the right to fight terrorist here instead of in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Because of this and other liberal ideas of his I don't consider him intelligent, but just another liberal Rino.

19 posted on 04/27/2007 8:20:03 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Ok - I’m not sure he said ALL effort in NYC.

But hey - I agree with you about the borders - I agree 100%.

The border issue is huge - and it’s scary as hell the way it’s handled.

Thanks


20 posted on 04/27/2007 8:21:59 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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