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Rudy on Iraq: Like Pre-Rudy NY
New York Observer ^ | 4/27/07

Posted on 04/27/2007 7:42:49 AM PDT by areafiftyone

At a fund-raiser this morning in Manhattan, Rudy Giuliani said that lessons for solving the chaotic situation in Iraq could be found in how he kicked the mob out of New York, and that healthcare, like plasma TVs, would become affordable if opened to a free market, according to an account from one donor present at the meeting.

According to Jonine Bernstein, a Memorial Sloan-Kettering epidemiologist who was among more than 100 donors attending the morning meeting at the Yale Club, Giuliani spoke about matters of defense, health care, Israel and Homeland Security allocations at the closed door meeting. Rudy Washington, who has suffered health problems in connection to the terrorist attacks, was in attendance, as was former state Senator Roy Goodman.

He also spoke about the war in Iraq, a subject he hasn't exactly been eager to discuss in depth so far in the race.

On that subject, Bernstein said, "he gave the analogy of what he did to clean up New York City and root out the mob."

Bernstein described his Iraq comments this way:

"In the past people had gone after individual families, but then, sure enough you go after one member, the other four or five or six families are sitting there really relieved. But when he was mayor he got them where it hurt, at the point of their production; laundering money and strong-arming people. He gave that analogy to Iraq, and talking about the terrorists and how it's everywhere and how we have to take it as a whole unit, and not just cherry pick."

The conclusion, according to Bernstein: "His whole point is that we are on the offense. The terrorists are attacking us, so we have to continue with that approach instead of just sitting and waiting. We have to go forward."

She added, "He was talking about doing a frontline approach."

Bernstein described the audience, which was gathered around about 10 tables, as "captivated."

"There wasn't one person on their BlackBerrys and they were all lawyers," she said.

Giuliani also employed an analogy to explain his idea for healthcare.

"He gave this analogy about plasma TVs," said Bernstein. "He said that in the very beginning plasma TVs were so expensive and only very few people could afford it. And now with greater volume and greater demand the price has dropped, and that could be a model for healthcare -- in the sense of privatization of healthcare. That if the government keeps supporting the healthcare industry it would just crush us."

There was also a question about Homeland Security funds.

"Somebody asked him how he would appropriate Homeland Security funds to New York City compared to everywhere else and he made a parallel to the Yankees," she said.

"He said somebody once asked him to be commissioner of baseball and he said he couldn’t do it because he would give everything to the Yankees."

But when he got around to answering the question, she described Giuliani as "very open-minded."

"He said that while he thinks the big major centers need a lot of protection he wouldn't ignore the smaller places. For example, in Pennsylvania, where flight 93 went down, that the school almost got hurt.

"He made some analogies that actually everything has to be all beefed up around the country and it's not just the major centers that are known targets. That you need to have the preparedness.

From there Giuliani segued into a discussion about Katrina, in which he expressed frustration about the government's response and that it raised questions about the country's homeland security preparedness.

The crowd’s attention was most rapt when Giuliani spoke about 9/11, an area in which the crowd of New Yorkers was intimately aware of his involvement. "So, he doesn't have to say much in that regard," Bernstein said. "But he did. He spoke about it."


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To: pissant

From your keyboard to God’s ears.


21 posted on 04/27/2007 8:35:15 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: FreedomNeocon

If you get banned, it’ll be your fault, not mine.


22 posted on 04/27/2007 8:41:33 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: areafiftyone
>>>>>Agree. Man It’s getting hot in here! ;-)

If you can't take the conservative heat, go back to your new home. You won't be missed around here.

23 posted on 04/27/2007 8:45:28 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Jake The Goose
>>>>>That’s the guy who went me yesterday.

If you zing me, ping me me.

24 posted on 04/27/2007 8:48:01 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: woofie

You are banned. It is very wise to be good to your mother.


25 posted on 04/27/2007 8:49:49 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Reagan Man

I was being facetious! - And let me know when you have something intelligent to say.


26 posted on 04/27/2007 8:50:38 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Jake The Goose
>>>>He’s a angry young man - but I respect his hard edge.

Young, no. Angry, no. Hard edged, yes.. I'm an ex-NewYawker. My biggest beef around FR is towards liberals like Rudy and people who promote liberal candidates and liberalism like YOU.

27 posted on 04/27/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

“Orderly - he’s out of his room”

Ok - don’t take any of this personally - it’s just politics.

Tomorrow we can all go to soccer games, go hunting, go fishing, and get on with the good life as Americans.

Go RUDY !!!


28 posted on 04/27/2007 8:56:00 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
What's a matter, you're new home doesn't give you the internet exposure of Free Republic? Can't get your Rudy propaganda spread so wide and far on that British bloggers hole in the wall. LOL I thought that was the reason all you liberals were going "over there". To be with the other RudyBoosters.

Tell your buds over there, RM says howdy! ;^)

29 posted on 04/27/2007 8:56:53 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

For people who don’t care for that website you guys sure spend an awful lot of time perusing it. Oh by the way its not just a Rudy forum its a place where everyone can support their particular Republican candidate without being told they are a liberal. Amazing concept isn’t it, that freedom to vote for and support whomever you like is an amazing thing! Yessiree!


30 posted on 04/27/2007 8:59:56 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Jake The Goose; jimrob
>>>>>Go RUDY !!!

We all know your a RudyBooster who enjoys running Rudy`s liberal candidacy up the flagpole. Still undermining FR`s major goals and objectives.

31 posted on 04/27/2007 9:04:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: pissant
Petraeus’ success is as crucial to GOP survival in 2008 as Grant and Sherman were to Lincoln in 1864 or Eisenhower and MacArthur to Roosevelt in 1944. Had Johnston bested Sherman in Atlanta and Lee decisively defeated Grant in Virginia, McClellan would have been elected President in 1864 and the Union Army would have withdrawn from the Confederacy, though probably retaining Tennessee and New Orelans, as well as the border states. Had Hitler let his generals run the war, the D-Day landing might have been destroyed and faster development of jet fighters would have enabled the Luftwaffe to overwhelm British and American air power. Roosevelt would have been defeated, and President Dewey might have agreed to a peace that left the Third Reich intact.
32 posted on 04/27/2007 9:07:12 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: areafiftyone
>>>>>For people who don’t care for that website you guys sure spend an awful lot of time perusing it.

Its a free country. Besides, its good to see what the enemy is doing from to time to time.

>>>>>Oh by the way its not just a Rudy forum ...

Its a Rudy forum, its just not an American forum. It was started by an angry Brit who became frustrated with the conservatism of FR and wants to promote anti-Freeerism anyway he can on the internet.

33 posted on 04/27/2007 9:09:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Oh stop it - you’re like a kid who runs off the play ground and tattles to the teacher.

Relax - I’m of no threat to you or your views or the wider FR community.


34 posted on 04/27/2007 9:09:36 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
correction: "anti-Freeerism", anti-Freeperism.

Well, maybe that was just a Freudian slip.

35 posted on 04/27/2007 9:11:56 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: woofie
At the risk of getting banned I would like to say Rudy was good to his mother

Can you back that up with a link? ;)

36 posted on 04/27/2007 9:13:11 AM PDT by yuta250
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To: Reagan Man

That’s what’s great about America. They found FR frustrating, so they formed their own group. Just wish them well (though no electoral success) and ignore ‘em.


37 posted on 04/27/2007 9:15:33 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Jake The Goose

Too bad, I’m not about to ignore your liberalism on FR.

Anyone running around this forum promoting Rudy the liberal for Prez, is a threat to conservatism and America`s future.

Most FReepers understand that. The head FReeper is no exception.

Carry on with your RudyBoostering.


38 posted on 04/27/2007 9:15:47 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: woofie

LOL!!


39 posted on 04/27/2007 9:16:49 AM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: Reagan Man

That’s your opinion. There are no enemies there only people who were thrown out of here for supporting who they want in the election. Amazing concept that freedom is. Its a shame you never heard of it.


40 posted on 04/27/2007 9:18:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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