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Industry caught in carbon ‘smokescreen’ (Carbon Offset fraud)
Financial Times ^ | April 25 2007 22:07 | Fiona Harvey and Stephen Fidler

Posted on 04/25/2007 7:27:30 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird

Industry caught in carbon ‘smokescreen’

By Fiona Harvey and Stephen Fidler in London

Published: April 25 2007 22:07 | Last updated: April 25 2007 22:07

Companies and individuals rushing to go green have been spending millions on “carbon credit” projects that yield few if any environmental benefits.

A Financial Times investigation has uncovered widespread failings in the new markets for greenhouse gases, suggesting some organisations are paying for emissions reductions that do not take place.

Others are meanwhile making big profits from carbon trading for very small expenditure and in some cases for clean-ups that they would have made anyway.

The growing political salience of environmental politics has sparked a “green gold rush”, which has seen a dramatic expansion in the number of businesses offering both companies and individuals the chance to go “carbon neutral”, offsetting their own energy use by buying carbon credits that cancel out their contribution to global warming.

The burgeoning regulated market for carbon credits is expected to more than double in size to about $68.2bn by 2010, with the unregulated voluntary sector rising to $4bn in the same period.

The FT investigation found: 

■ Widespread instances of people and organisations buying worthless credits that do not yield any reductions in carbon emissions.

■ Industrial companies profiting from doing very little – or from gaining carbon credits on the basis of efficiency gains from which they have already benefited substantially.

■ Brokers providing services of questionable or no value.

■ A shortage of verification, making it difficult for buyers to assess the true value of carbon credits.

■ Companies and individuals being charged over the odds for the private purchase of European Union carbon permits that have plummeted in value because they do not result in emissions cuts.

Francis Sullivan, environment adviser at HSBC, the UK’s biggest bank that went carbon-neutral in 2005, said he found “serious credibility concerns” in the offsetting market after evaluating it for several months.

“The police, the fraud squad and trading standards need to be looking into this. Otherwise people will lose faith in it,” he said.

These concerns led the bank to ignore the market and fund its own carbon reduction projects directly.

Some companies are benefiting by asking “green” consumers to pay them for cleaning up their own pollution. For instance, DuPont, the chemicals company, invites consumers to pay $4 to eliminate a tonne of carbon dioxide from its plant in Kentucky that produces a potent greenhouse gas called HFC-23. But the equipment required to reduce such gases is relatively cheap. DuPont refused to comment and declined to specify its earnings from the project, saying it was at too early a stage to discuss.

The FT has also found examples of companies setting up as carbon offsetters without appearing to have a clear idea of how the markets operate. In response to FT inquiries about its sourcing of carbon credits, one company, carbonvoucher.com, said it had not taken payments for offsets.

Blue Source, a US offsetting company, invites consumers to offset carbon emissions by investing in enhanced oil recovery, which pumps carbon dioxide into depleted oil wells to bring up the remaining oil. However, Blue Source said that because of the high price of oil, this process was often profitable in itself, meaning operators were making extra revenues from selling “carbon credits” for burying the carbon.

There is nothing illegal in these practices. However, some companies that are offsetting their emissions have avoided such projects because customers may find them controversial.

BP said it would not buy credits resulting from improvements in industrial efficiency or from most renewable energy projects in developed countries.

Additional reporting by Rebecca Bream



TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: carbon; carbonoffsetscam; global; globalwarming; gorebalism; warming
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Algore is part owner of a carbon offset scam company isn't he?
1 posted on 04/25/2007 7:27:35 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: xcamel
Politics of Global Warming ping...

(I'm on your list but you're the list keeper)

2 posted on 04/25/2007 7:33:59 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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Hey, I have a one half acre wooded lot that cannot be built on, er I mean, I won't build on if I can sell the carbon credits from my trees. How do I find a sucker customer for my credits? Any ideas?
3 posted on 04/25/2007 7:37:45 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Link about Gore’s “offset” company:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1812291/posts


4 posted on 04/25/2007 7:40:17 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Working as planned.


5 posted on 04/25/2007 7:40:17 PM PDT by Shermy
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How do I find a sucker customer for my credits? Any ideas?

Dial 411 and ask for Algore's number.

6 posted on 04/25/2007 7:41:31 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Seems fishy:

The confusion, Campbell said, arose because GIM pays to offset the energy use of its operations and the personal emissions of its 23 employees, including Gore.

So, the firm will cover the cost to offset the energy use at Gore's home, or his global jet travel, as it would the offset cost of any other employee, Campbell said.

Gore's company pays for his "offsets" and he makes money from his company.

7 posted on 04/25/2007 7:44:39 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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“The FT has also found examples of companies setting up as carbon offsetters without appearing to have a clear idea of how the markets operate.”

FT is still a little behind the ball.

The carbon offsetters know clearly what they are doing.


8 posted on 04/25/2007 7:45:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Just in time as campaigns and elites have committed to spending $$ on these things. How convenient...


9 posted on 04/25/2007 7:45:35 PM PDT by eureka! (The 'rats have made their choice in the WOT and honest history will not be kind...)
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Algore is part owner of a carbon offset scam company isn't he?

No. His company (Generation Investment Management) pays another (CarbonNeutral) for offsets on his behalf - for his personal and business-related carbon sins.

All prior reports that Gore owns an offset company or pays his company for offsets were based on his spokesman speaking gibberish to The Tenneseean, making that appear to be the case when it wasn't. They've since changed their story.
10 posted on 04/25/2007 7:45:48 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

This scam sounds similar to the “name your own star” scam.


11 posted on 04/25/2007 7:52:37 PM PDT by syriacus (Princeton's Peter Singer-"It's OK to kill flawed infants." Cho-"It's OK to kill flawed students.")
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To: Shermy

I think it may be that they snatched up URLs with plans of selling to fools but haven’t had time to put the scheme together as of yet. CarbonOffsetsSoldToMoronsHere.com is currently available. It’s worth a try...


12 posted on 04/25/2007 7:53:04 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: syriacus

It’s more like the Internet Bubble. Everybody’s dumping money into projects that are going absolutely nowhere, do nothing for the environment, and just push money around. Eventually the system will crash unless the Left get in control again and force offsets (taxes) on the general public.


13 posted on 04/25/2007 8:06:15 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
And, I saw a post today that he's on the board of Lehman Bros.

They want to be the leader in the carbon credit scam business.

14 posted on 04/25/2007 8:11:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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Since no standards or oversights exist for this industry it’s impossible to check anything any of these people claim. It’s like a company selling acreage on the Moon.


15 posted on 04/25/2007 8:17:56 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

>>“The police, the fraud squad and trading standards need to be looking into this. Otherwise people will lose faith in it,” he said.

Many of us have been paying attention, and already have.


16 posted on 04/25/2007 8:19:54 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Since no standards or oversights exist for this industry it’s impossible to check anything any of these people claim.”

Such standards exist in the Euro trading area, and are worthless, cheatable, and promote government corruption.


17 posted on 04/25/2007 8:20:47 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Not unlike Y2K insurance.


18 posted on 04/25/2007 8:24:22 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Shermy

I haven’t researched this but I heard Newt Gingrich one night on TV say that Kyoto was written to exclude the “green” benefits of the large percentage of U.S. land that is forested.


19 posted on 04/25/2007 8:31:38 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Just like Rush said, its a get rich scheme for Algore and his buddies....

And the kiddies are crying cause the polar bears are dieing....what a bunch of crap!!!

Where are the investigations in Washington D.C. for fraud, where are the invesigations in Washington D.C. for misleading the public on this fraud????

They are after the current Administration....come on Republicans in Washington D.C. grow some and get to work, thats why we put you there!!!


20 posted on 04/25/2007 8:42:07 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("Grow your own DOPE, plant a LIB""Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter 08")
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