EEOC -- Attacks The Salvation Army

GOPUSA ^ | April 25, 2007 | Paul M. Weyrich

[Badeye]

Yep.

[Titan Magroyne]

I thought that having the ability to read and speak English had long been a requirement for becoming a naturalized citizen. No soup for you!

You're assuming the 2 plaintiffs have a desire to become contributing, naturalized American citizens as they enjoy the resources and benefits at their disposal in this country.

Get in back of the line, you silly, pompous American!

/s

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

So I can be denied a job if it requires me to be fluent in Spanish but the Salvation Army can’t deny a job to someone because they can’t speak English???

That's what I was thinking about when I read this gem:

In what other country is there an agency that would help you sue yet another government agency or a private company if you weren't a citizen? And provide you with an interpreter to do so?

You argue this case in court, you ask the EEOC lawyers how they communicated with the plaintiffs unless they have Spanish-speaking employees . . . and if that does not imply that being able to speak Spanish and English (how can you translate into English unless you know English??) would not a requirement for accomplishing this. Does that not translate into a requirement that the employee doing the translation be able to speak English?

OTOH the real answer to this nonsense is even simpler: ask the EEOC lawyer if he (or, perhaps more likely, she) could do her job without being able to speak English! Then turn to the justices of the Supreme Court and ask them if they could do their job without speaking English.

[MeanWestTexan]

No, a language can be an employment requirement, if necessary for the job. I would assume English is more-or-less necessary anywhere.

Language cannot be used as a pretext for firing, however (i.e., the real reason they don’t like you is your hispanic).

There’s something about “diproportionate impact,” but I’m not a lawyer.

[mdmathis6]

The president is the Chief Executive....he could tell the EEOC to stand down on this issue...or hold up their money pending emergency use in Iraq....

He needs to lead on this issue!

[Mr. Wright]

You know, everything, and I mean everything, that is right with America is under attack. It is indeed frightening.

[keepitreal]

I totally agree. These folks won’t be happy until our beloved country is totally destroyed, from the inside out.

[Marysecretary]

We like the Salvation Army and the Rescue Missions. We give at Christmas every year. Good people doing good work.

[Jacquerie]

Every government bureaucracy no matter how irrelevant, soon becomes something like a living organism bent on living and propagating. That the full force of the federal government can be unleashed on a whim on a great charity should make us shiver at what they have and will do against for profit corporations and individuals.

[A. Pole]

It all started in a thrift store in Framingham, Massachusetts. Two Hispanic employees were given one year to learn English in order to speak the language of the country in which they live and the language spoken by other employees. They failed to do so; in turn the employees were fired. The EEOC filed a lawsuit against the Salvation Army claiming the employees had suffered "emotional pain, humiliation and embarrassment" as a result of the English-only policy.

But when people lose or are being denied job for NOT speaking Spanish is it OK?

[printhead]

I think Brazilian native language is Portuguese though.

[Elsiejay]

But, really, is it not true that the legal requirements for becoming a citizen through the naturalization process, and being allowed to exercise the privilige of voting, include demonstrating ability to read and understand the English language?
This is why I cannot understand printing voting ballots in foreign languages. I’m not sure about which nation our government bureaucrats, not to mention certain highly-placed elected officials, are striving to serve.

[Titan Magroyne]

In answer to your question, yes.

I can’t condone printing *any* gov’t paperwork in other languages. If private ventures choose to do so in order to cater to their market, that’s their overhead and the free market at work. Absent today’s political factor in that issue, I have no problem with private entities doing that. But it just keeps piling on in every sector of American life.

[mejohnny2]

Sorry, I knew people that has worked for them, they don’t treat their employee’s very well. And I tried to talked to
the main office, those people call their self christian’s, yea right.......

[Badeye]

Your the only person I’ve ever encountered with that viewpoint and/or story.