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Christians for Rudy Giuliani
Spot On ^ | April 25, 2007 | Scott Olin Schmidt

Posted on 04/25/2007 9:37:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

When I tell my liberal friends and associates that there are only a handful of Republicans that I would vote for before Hillary Clinton, the response is universally the same. I get a blank stare, followed by the question: "do you really think Rudy Giuliani can win the Republican nomination?"

If you've read about my infatuation with the Giuliani candidacy, you know my answer is YES. While Democrats like to fall in love with a candidate—Howard Dean or Senator Obama, for example—Republicans prefer picking winners.

With notable exceptions, like the 2002 California Gubernatorial race—Republicans recognize that they, like the Democrats, are a minority party. And yes, the Religious Right will vote for Rudy Giuliani just like they voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in California in 2003 and again in 2006.

While most Republicans would rather support a candidate who opposed abortion rights and supported the Second Amendment, they also realize that, after seven years of George W. Bush's religious-right mobilization efforts, Americans would be hard pressed to elect such a person.

Republicans don't like being losers. Being losers is why people become Democrats.

Rudy Giuliani offers the best and most practical hope to fight off the evil empire of American politics—the Clinton Family—because he remains a national hero and is not tarnished by the Iraq war. What's more, Giuliani's "urban conservative" message of freedom for all evokes the origins of the Grand Old Party—while chipping away at the core voter base of the Democrats.

Giuliani's electability is what will get Religious voters to support him—and some will do so even enthusiastically.

If you don't believe me, then just follow the money. Campaign logic would say that Rudy Giuliani, the more moderate—dare I say liberal—Republican would be sweeping in campaign dollars from urban areas, where Republicans have more libertarian leanings. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney, the born-again religious conservative, should be raking in the dough from suburban, ex-urban and rural areas where like-minded folks call home.

Campaign logic, however, would be wrong.

Romney leads Republicans in fundraising nationwide—but also in Los Angeles and its most liberal zip-codes of Beverly Hills, Hollywood and the Westside. Giuliani, on the other hand, wins the fundraising battle in the neighborhoods West of the 405 of Brentwood and Pacific Palisades with a higher concentration of single-family homes.

This anomaly is more stark when you look at the numbers from across the State. Romney is raising more money in urban areas like Sacramento, San Diego and San Francisco. Giuliani is taking in the preponderance of dollars in faraway places like Yolo County, Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Napa, Salinas, the Inland Empire and Fresno.

If you looked at a map of fundraising by County in California, Giuliani would win the Red Counties and Romney would take the Blue. It is as if Mitt Romney were the GOP's Phil Angelides.

Look no further than the case of Real Estate Developer/Hotelier C. Frederick Wehba if you need more convincing. The passionately evangelical Christian—who started his own church in Beverly Hills and is a major contributor to George Bush and the RNC. C. Frederick is backing Rudolph Giuliani in 2008, as are Bill Simon and many others in the Christian Community.

Without Ted Haggard to tell them how to vote, Republicans of all stripes seem to be coming to the same conclusion—that the perfect should not be the enemy of the good, especially when the cost of failure is a sequel to President Clinton.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; giuliani; politics
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Christians for Rudy Giuliani

Yeah....right

21 posted on 04/25/2007 9:53:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ex-snook
Giuliani’s claim to fame is he made a speech after the WTC collapse.

Before that, he was the New York version of Mayor Daley.

22 posted on 04/25/2007 9:53:58 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"While most Republicans would rather support a candidate who opposed abortion rights and supported the Second Amendment, they also realize that, after seven years of George W. Bush's religious-right mobilization efforts, Americans would be hard pressed to elect such a person."

So, a pro-life second amendment supporter is unelectable? Sorry but I don't buy that for a second. At worst the abortion issue splits right down the middle. Further, since the VT shootings it seems to be the the big dems who are avoiding launching another anti-gun crusade, in fact they seem scared to death of the issue. I think a hard core anti-gun, pro-abortion position would be much more damaging to a pol than the opposite.

23 posted on 04/25/2007 9:54:21 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not this one.


24 posted on 04/25/2007 9:54:31 AM PDT by rintense (Rudy is nothing more than a Dem with an R behind his name. I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The author comes right out and says in the first sentence that he would vote for Hillary.


25 posted on 04/25/2007 9:54:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: meg88

Still pushing the stupid polls, I see.


26 posted on 04/25/2007 9:55:12 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Giuliani's "urban conservative" message of freedom for all evokes the origins of the Grand Old Party


27 posted on 04/25/2007 9:55:30 AM PDT by jdm (If you don't want to slip on banana peels, then eat your fruit in carpeted rooms!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
To be totally honest, I do “NOT” wish to hold my nose while voting for Rudy because he is the only candidate running against Hillary.

As a Christians, his social ideas as well as policies are questionable. I’m not an one issue voter but his wishy-washiness on abortion makes me question him in “all” areas.

28 posted on 04/25/2007 9:55:45 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things. " President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Christians for Rino Rudy = Jews for Hitler

Both incredible dumb moves.


29 posted on 04/25/2007 9:56:25 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
These Christians for Rudy also support Democrats and believe it's "Christian" to support global warming and pay equality too.

No kidding.

Sorry Rooty. The Clintons already have those kind of "Christians" in the bag.


30 posted on 04/25/2007 9:56:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: dirtboy
And second, what is this "tainted" by the Iraq War routine? Does that mean that Rudy is gonna turn on the war if he wins the nomination so he can run leftwards against the war? Is that what the GOP really wants in a candidate?

You interpreted that incorrectly. It simply means that Rudy was not involved in the Iraq War Resolution nor any decision to go to war such as Hillary, or McCain.

31 posted on 04/25/2007 9:58:51 AM PDT by avacado
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To: wagglebee
Let's not forget that after 9/11, Rudy contemplated using it as an excuse to delay elections and possibly change the term limit law so that he could remain in power.

This is a huge distortion of the facts, although I see you use weasle words to couch your accusation. Rudy was asked to stay because New Yorkers said they wanted him too. He said he would do what was needed to ease the transition.

32 posted on 04/25/2007 9:58:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: EternalVigilance
Giuliani is such a loser that even this empty-suited leftist Obama can make him look like a lightweight.

Oh my.

You admire Obama the socialist?

33 posted on 04/25/2007 10:02:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JohnnyZ
The Democrats did not pick Howard Dean -- they picked John Kerry, who they considered the most electable.

They got stuck with Kerry after the "scream."

34 posted on 04/25/2007 10:03:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So, one rich, greedy "Christian" willing to support a man that supports killing unborn children, believes homosexuality is good and normal and is thrice-married, public adulterer is indicative of conservative Christians as a whole?

It goes without saying, it would be a sin to vote for a man whose beliefs are hostile to Biblical morality.

35 posted on 04/25/2007 10:03:33 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What he means is that Rudy is so much of a liberal, that the difference between him and Hillabama, with the exception of one or two issues, is nonexistent.

Not a big motivator for conservative voters, that.


36 posted on 04/25/2007 10:04:30 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Hydroshock
Christians for Rino Rudy = Jews for Hitler

See, when you say things like that you loose all credibility.

37 posted on 04/25/2007 10:04:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy

I think JulieAnnie would get the Log Cabin Republican vote with no problem.


38 posted on 04/25/2007 10:05:57 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Well stated!


39 posted on 04/25/2007 10:06:43 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No, both have several things in common, both are authoritarians, both are statists, both are liars, and both have no business being elected to the Whitehouse.
40 posted on 04/25/2007 10:07:14 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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