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To: chessplayer
This is over-hyped. The fact that the sun is a red dwarf almost certainly rules out life. Our sun has its radiation peak in the energy range where most chemical reactions take place. The radiation from a red dwarf falls mostly in the infrared. There's not enough energy in the infrared photons to carry out anything resembling photosynthesis. Liquid water is necessary but not sufficient for life resembling ours. Properly energetic photons from a star are also needed. These guys made an interesting discovery, but they've gotten carried away.
23 posted on 04/24/2007 5:03:34 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I wouldn't swear that IR can't drive reactions. Yes it's not very likely, and life here hasn't figured it out, but I wouldn't completely rule it out. Dual photon absorption, maybe?

Besides life can run quite well on chemosynthesis even on earth.

28 posted on 04/24/2007 5:10:01 PM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: JoeFromSidney
"There's not enough energy in the infrared photons to carry out anything resembling photosynthesis. Liquid water is necessary but not sufficient for life resembling ours."

Tree-sized mushrooms? Some things don't like ultraviolet.

44 posted on 04/24/2007 6:47:05 PM PDT by BobS
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To: JoeFromSidney

“This is over-hyped. The fact that the sun is a red dwarf almost certainly rules out life. Our sun has its radiation peak in the energy range where most chemical reactions take place. The radiation from a red dwarf falls mostly in the infrared. There’s not enough energy in the infrared photons to carry out anything resembling photosynthesis. Liquid water is necessary but not sufficient for life resembling ours. Properly energetic photons from a star are also needed. These guys made an interesting discovery, but they’ve gotten carried away.”

Great scientific thought process my friend. Also, how about the French comment about exploring this planet in the next two or three decades? The planet is 20.5 light years away from earth. I don’t think we have invented the warp drive yet have we Scotty? Perhaps we may travel to Alphi Centuri in our lifetime if you are young, approx. 4 light years from earth with nuclear or fusion propulsion systems.

My theory is that man will evolve into energy which is far less limiting then being bio-organic matter in the next 150 years. Quantum physics has proven that energy can be accelerated many, many times the speed of light making a trip to this new planet an hour of travel time tops. I don’t think we will ever need to try and figure out how to end-around the theory of relativity which says it would take more energy then possible to move matter faster then the speed of light.


64 posted on 04/25/2007 8:22:29 PM PDT by quant5
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