Posted on 04/24/2007 2:06:54 PM PDT by kronos77
PRISTINA, Serbia (Reuters) - The prime minister of Kosovo requested clarification on Tuesday of an apparent warning from Russia that it would veto a Western-backed plan to give the breakaway Serbian province independence.
Opposing Russian and Western positions on Kosovo's future status have hardened ahead of a U.N. Security Council fact-finding mission to the disputed territory this week.
"We are not alone in this process," said Kosovo premier Agim Ceku. "Saying 'No' to (the) plan is not just a 'No' to us. It is a 'No' to the international community, the United States and United Kingdom."
The plan by U.N. envoy Martti Ahtisaari would make Kosovo independent under European Union supervision. It is strongly opposed by Serbia, with the backing of Russia.
In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States was well aware of Russian and Serbian opposition to the plan "but it's time to try to craft a solution that will over time be durable".
In Moscow, a foreign ministry spokesman declined to confirm an apparent veto warning attributed to Deputy Foreign Minister Vladimir Titov by Interfax news agency.
Interfax quoted him as saying: "A decision based on Martti Ahtisaari's draft will not get through the U.N. Security Council.
"I think the threat of using the veto should stimulate the sides to find a mutually acceptable mechanism." Continued...
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Talk about the world turned upside down, the Russians are doing what we should be doing, and we are opposing the Russians.
My goodness, when will we learn?
We are in the shameful position of being on the wrong side of this, with the Russians defending the Christians.
Speaking about Balkans, and not about rest of the world, Russia was supporting Christians against Muslims for 200 years now. Only thanks to Russia- Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece were liberated from Muslim Turks.
Funny thing, England, France and Germans supported Muslim Turkish Empire... even back than.
Krimea war in 1850es started cause West was affraid that Russians would capture Constantinople and topple Turkish empire. Western countries attacked Russia in defence of Turkish Muslim Empire...
West was more affraid of Russia than Turkish empire...
You see, stupidity is not new thing, and West is not continuing Clintons policy, but centuries old Islamoapeasement
You see
Yes, I see, and as I said, it is shameful when we don’t take the side of our own fellow Christians.
‘toon’s fault! 100%!
LLS
Yup. Just ask General Clark.
Would that be weasly clark, the man who ordered General Jackson, the British General in command in Kosovo, to attack the Russians holding Pristina airport in Kosovo... and in doing so start WWIII? I thought so!
LLS
Yeah, those were the good ol’ days. How ironic it would have been had that disaster occured.
He didn’t actually order General Jackson to “attack” the Russians, but he did order General Jackson to “block” the Russians from taking the airport. However, you and I know what that would mean in reality. It would mean a standoff, and possible confrontation provoking the Russians to attack thus justifying a war. Tricky politics.......I’m with you. The inner government wants a WWIII in the worse way, but in the right time. General Jackson did the right thing by telling Weasley Clark to stuff it ole chap. Washington also turned their backs on Clark, rightfully so......he was, as I understand it, relieved of his duty at some time......In any case we’ve been supporting KLA and Mafia ever since.
The Clintons and Cohen turned on Clark and screwed him, forcing him out of office as head of NATO long before he was scheduled to leave. He is a decorated Vietnam war hero. I have never understood why he was so loyal to them, they treated him disgracefully after he carried all that poison water on their behalf.
Clark had a significant relationship with the KLA. reference “The Brooklyn Connection”. You will see him, Holbrooke, many others rubbing serious elbows, taking Kerry campaign money, on camera from the Albanian Mafia....literally, Krasniqi says words to the effect, you give money to politicans they will do favors for you. They collected $500,000 from this effort, from the Mafia. You can see it on a documentary that was not shown in the U.S. They made it for “sympathy” for the Kosovo cause. This was also an ill conceived operation that failed from start to presently and will shortly start fighting again.
Clintons and Cohen distanced themselves for sure, when he screwed the pooch.....why not. He screwed up, bombed just about anything that moved. The bombing plan was a disaster. I don’t know about Vietnam, but that doesn’t even fit in. Yes, you are correct, the Clintons, Cohen had very sinister plans for Bosnia, Croatia, and Kosovo. They justified the war from Bosnia to Kosovo with massive deception and lies all the way to now. Granted, the Serb paramilitaries came down heavy handed. There were never 8,000 innocent Muslims killed. The majority were uniformed, they found about 3,500, others were results of the bombing and yes some innocents were killed. There were never any rape camps, and, Cohen lied when he said 100,000 Kosovo Albanians were considered missing or massacred...then they changed it to 10,000 then they couldn’t explain why only about 2,107 bodies were found. Some bodies were found in Serbia but this is very questionable as to where the bodies really came from. I lived there from 1999 to 2004, in daily contact with UN, OSCE and KFOR units (in one way or another), in the Eastern Region of Kosovo. He was relived, and yes, he did carry the poison water, i agree with you.
Granted, Generals have been used and abused for example..
[June 1932 - Burned out veteran’s homes in Shanty Town, to prepare them to run a coup, Then entice US. General to march on Washington, the U.S. Capital to take over using the 500,000 disgruntled Vets.]
TRUE STORY as confirmed by the Dirkstein and McCormick Commission.
July 1932 to November 1933 – Good timing for an actual planned Coup of the American Government by American big business by attempting to recruit a Major General Butler in the U.S.M.C. as the commander.
This true to life plan involved a very colorful character named Major General Smedley Butler of the USMC. He was approached by certain wealthy capitalist from the United States to lead a revolution to overthrow the government and establish an American Fascist dictatorship. He was even tempted by this offer.
Three men, representing a body of planners, proposed to General Butler a plan to seize the White House with a private Army of 500,000 very disgruntled veterans, hold FDR prisoner, and get rid of him if he refused to serve as their puppet in a dictatorship they were going to control.
Do a search on Butler and discover what he said about war and what he knew already. He asserted that the military really served the role as a collection agency for big bankers. The Senate munitions investigating committee confirmed this assertion in 1934.
Major General Butler had won two Congressional Medals of Honor, and had been involved in many campaigns. This committee confirmed that; remember this word; “Standard Oil”, along with United Fruit, the sugar trust, the big banks, had been behind most of the operations he had lead. Do another search to find the McCormack-Dickstein Committee that investigated Butler’s charges. They confirmed his allegations.
There are other folks that believe that Butler was maybe being set up, and that this incident was actually going to be the means that these big businessmen and FDR was going to use. Butler would lead this private Army to DC, this action would have resulted in FDR declaring a national emergency and imposing martial law and being supported by the American people. It was planned and would have succeeded, however, Butler, being a Marine in true form, revealed the plot and FDR had to be happy just being a President. The investigation went lame and just disappeared from sight.
Among the powers that be, it was decided that the main way to recover and still achieve this goal was to involve the U.S. in a war. Note that in 1927 was the start of Standard Oil supporting Germany by refining the oil necessary to begin WWII.
NOTE: Replay or chance repeat of history in the St Petersburg massacre in 1905 or even better the 12 September 1917 when Civil War Breaks Out in Russia as Kornilov’s Army Marches on Petrograd to assume Power.
NOTE: Speculation from historians is that FDR knew ahead of time, would have committed active duty troops to stop the treason, and have a mass slaughter, St. Petersburg worked once, why not again. He then declares Martial law and a dictatorship. Plan fails, and is swept under the carpet. FDR settles for a war with Japan and entering the World war by setting up Pearl Harbor.
and the following .......relative to Pearl Harbor....
1 Dec 1941 - The tanker Shiriya, which had been added to the Striking Force in an order intercepted Nov 14, radioed “proceeding to a position 30.00 N, 154.20 E. Expect to arrive at that point on 3 December.” (near HI) The fact that this message is in the National Archives destroys the myth that the attack fleet maintained radio silence.
“Striking Force Operations Order Number One” (SF serial # 820 dated November 19) were that all 31 ships were to use longwave radio and the Battleship Hiei was ordered to communicate with Tokyo and other fleets by shortwave. FDR apologists always lie about this order. When they have to lie to make their case, that is an admission their case is weak. Serial numbers prove that the Striking Force sent over 663 radio messages between Nov 16 and Dec 7 or about 1 per hour. The NSA has not released 25 percent of raw intercepts because the headers would prove that the Striking Force did not maintain radio silence nor have they released all Direction Finding reports for the same reason. They must be hiding this for a reason.
The reason must be to deceive the public. On Nov 29 the Hiei sent one message to the Commander of the 3rd fleet; on Nov 30 the Akagi sent several messages to its tankers - see page 474 of the Hewitt Report. Stinnett in DAY OF DECEIT (p 209) found evidence of over 100 messages from the Striking Force in the National Archives. All Direction Finding reports from HI have been crudely cut out. Reports from Dec 5 show messages sent from the Striking Force picked up by Station Cast, P.I.
From traffic analysis, HI reported that the carrier force was at sea and in the North. THE MOST AMAZING FACT is that in reply to that report, MacArthur’s command sent a series of three messages, Nov 26, 29, Dec 2, to HI lying about the location of the carrier fleet - saying it was in the South China Sea west of the Philippines. This false information, which the NSA calls inexplicable, was the true reason that HI was caught unawares. Duane Whitlock, who is still alive in Iowa, sent those messages. There were a large number of other messages that gave the location of the Striking Force by alluding to the Aleutians, the North Pacific and various weather systems near HI.
One thing... the Russians would have attacked at the slightest provocation. An Attack is an attack. WWIII... I agree.
LLS
I agree with you....provocation was the word of the day from Clinton HQ....didn’t go so well they distanced themselves from Clark and made him a scapegoat. I can go along with that.........They aren’t done yet.
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