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Aurora takes on Lockheed in contest to build cargo X-plane
Flightglobal.com ^ | 24/04/07 | Graham Warwick

Posted on 04/24/2007 8:36:34 AM PDT by Freeport

Unmanned air vehicle specialist Aurora Flight Sciences is to compete with Lockheed Martin to build an all-composite cargo X-plane for the US Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL).

The demonstrator is planned to fly within 18 months under the Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft (ACCA) programme, to prove structural design and manufacturing technologies that would reduce the cost and weight of a future short take-off and landing transport.

ACCA will support the Advanced Joint Air Combat System (AJACS) now being defined by USAF Air Mobility Command as a possible future replacement for the Lockheed Martin C-130 tactical transport.

AFRL has awarded Aurora a $47 million contract and signed a $49 million co-operative agreement with Lockheed. Each has received an initial $2 million to begin design of their competing demonstrators.

One of the companies is expected to be selected later this year to build and fly a single X-plane demonstrator by the end of next year.

In its call for proposals, the AFRL outlined a notional advanced STOL light transport capable of 400kt (740km/h), pressurised and carrying three cargo pallets, 20 troops or a light wheeled vehicle.

While not representative of the AJACS, the notional flight profile and cargo volume "require the demonstrator to be built like a transport", says AFRL.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aerospace; afs; boeing; mississippi
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I have to say that Lockheeds concept drawing, if it remains as is, is one ugly bird.... And this from an aerospace engineer....
1 posted on 04/24/2007 8:36:35 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport; Aeronaut

This thread is worthless without pics.


2 posted on 04/24/2007 8:40:54 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: AntiKev

Here ya go!

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/04/24/213450/aurora-takes-on-lockheed-in-contest-to-build-cargo-x-plane.html


3 posted on 04/24/2007 8:42:12 AM PDT by Freeport
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4 posted on 04/24/2007 8:44:13 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Freeport
Got this also:

Northrop studies future USAF lift

5 posted on 04/24/2007 8:47:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Freeport

Lockheeds entry....

6 posted on 04/24/2007 8:51:48 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: rustyncrusty

Bump for later read.


7 posted on 04/24/2007 8:54:25 AM PDT by rustyncrusty (Where liberty dwells, there is my country. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Freeport

I’d say interesting. Wonder what a loose fan or compressor section, would do up in the area for the engines, didn’t catch how many engines.


8 posted on 04/24/2007 9:01:33 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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and carrying three cargo pallets, 20 troops or a light wheeled vehicle.

A bit small, isn't it?

9 posted on 04/24/2007 9:12:29 AM PDT by PAR35
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A bit small, isn't it?

The project is for a light cargo craft, so yes.

10 posted on 04/24/2007 9:17:08 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Freeport
One of the companies is expected to be selected later this year to build and fly a single X-plane demonstrator by the end of next year.

My money is on Lockheed. They have better lobbyists. Dick Cheney's son in law for instance.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/02/exposing-dept-of-job-security-who-is.html

[snip]After Bush became president, Perry moved from being a junior partner at the DC law firm Latham & Watkins to holding the position of Associate-Attorney General for the Department of Justice. He then moved to the Office of Management and Budget as General Counsel, where he had a hand in drafting plans for DHS. In 2003, he returned to Latham & Watkins as a member of their Homeland Security practice group and lobbied on behalf of Lockheed Martin and other companies.

To no surprise, Perry’s “revolving door” habits haven’t ended with his position at DHS. Secretary Chertoff announced on Jan. 23 that Perry would be resigning from DHS by Feb. 6, presumably to rejoin his old law firm.

11 posted on 04/24/2007 9:20:08 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Freeport

Hrm...it looks as if they’re using lessons learned from the F-22 to design it. It looks like they’re trying to make it stealthy. Although I have to wonder if they really need that much vertical stab area. I can see that design evolving with a single vertical stab.


12 posted on 04/24/2007 9:40:02 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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It’s hard to see what it’s going to be able to do that an Osprey can’t, except it will be pressurized and will fly a little faster. They talk about it as a replacement for the C-130, but it is going to be too small for that role.


13 posted on 04/24/2007 9:45:46 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: WKB; onyx; WileyPink; jmax; Islander7; 2ndDivisionVet; somniferum; flying Elvis; MagnoliaMS; ...

Missippi Ping. Aurora is located out by the GTR Airport in Columbus.


14 posted on 04/24/2007 10:10:08 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 25 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: AntiKev

No doubt that Lockheed has the same tech but our Mississippi competitor, Aurora, specializes in composite construction. I believe that the idea is indeed to try to make something stealthy. Well, as stealthy as you can make a transport. But then, how many radars have seen that big bird they call the B-2?


15 posted on 04/24/2007 10:15:39 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 25 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: AntiKev

The dual stabilizers help mask the IR signature. They can also be canted to reduce the radar signature.

This program looks like a billion dollar solution for a million dollar question.


16 posted on 04/24/2007 10:16:43 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Freeport

Lockheed has been kicking around designs for this for quite a while. It looked about the same when I saw concepts of this there ten years ago. There are some variations but they are on the common theme.


17 posted on 04/24/2007 10:25:52 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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This program looks like a billion dollar solution for a million dollar question.

Probably so. They have basically dusted off an old design here. So when the cost figures come in and the stealth requirement gets tossed it will probably end up looking nothing like that.
18 posted on 04/24/2007 10:28:29 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: PAR35
It’s hard to see what it’s going to be able to do that an Osprey can’t, except it will be pressurized and will fly a little faster.

Those are two important things. Also it'll probably have a longer range, less radar visibility and be easier to maintain.

19 posted on 04/24/2007 10:32:12 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Freeport
It can not be a replacement for the C-130 until it can hold at least 5 pallets. Other than that I think a stealth cargo plane is a great idea. The Spec Ops would love it.
20 posted on 04/24/2007 10:41:54 AM PDT by Veloxherc (To go up pull back, to go down pull back all the way.)
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