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Taiwan says it would win war with China
Associated Press(AP) ^ | April 24, 2007 | Annie Huang

Posted on 04/24/2007 4:24:56 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Taiwan says it would win war with China

By Annie Huang, Associated Press Writer | April 24, 2007

TAIPEI, Taiwan --A computer simulation projected that China could land forces on rival Taiwan, but they would be repulsed after two weeks of fierce fighting and harsh losses to both sides, Taiwan's military said Tuesday.

The complex simulation involved a scenario of China invading the island, 100 miles off its coast, in 2012.

Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949, but Beijing considers Taiwan Chinese territory. The computer scenario was based on China's repeated threats to attack if Taiwan ever tries to formalize its de facto independence.

The military released its findings from the simulation to reporters on Tuesday.

In the simulation, Chinese ships ferry forces to the island, backed by heavy missile barrages and pinpoint airstrikes on Taiwanese military bases and other strategic facilities.

The "invaders" establish beachheads along Taiwan's west coast, though their arrival is delayed for several days by Taiwanese missile strikes on mainland military bases, and by Taiwanese navy counterattacks.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; prc; roc; taiwan
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1 posted on 04/24/2007 4:24:57 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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2 posted on 04/24/2007 4:26:41 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

war predictions based on a computer simulation? huh????


3 posted on 04/24/2007 4:27:38 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: sukhoi-30mki
If current treads persist, Taiwan definitely will not be able to win a war with the PRC (at least from a secular point of view).
4 posted on 04/24/2007 4:28:04 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
..... in a few years Taiwan.....
5 posted on 04/24/2007 4:29:00 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Think, Viet Nam... Korea.... China is the military bomb.
6 posted on 04/24/2007 4:29:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the solders and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
I doubt it. China could sit back and pound Taiwan into dust from the sea, unless they had to bother with us.
7 posted on 04/24/2007 4:29:32 AM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
My own solution to the problem would be to pick the darkest night of the month, take everything we have which moves on water, and pull the entire population of Taiwan back either to that Northwest corner of Australia which is populated mainly if not entirely by reptiles or to one of our own island posessions several thousand miles back from China, along with all their infrastructure and valuables, and tell the chicoms they can have the empty island of Taiwan.

They may have a claim to the island; they hve no possible claim to the millions of people who moved to that island to escape their fubar government.

8 posted on 04/24/2007 4:30:14 AM PDT by rickdylan
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Even Vietnam once handed the Chinese their @sses on a war in the early ‘80s. But still, this is a new China, and sparing room for over-confidence will be deadly to Taiwan.


9 posted on 04/24/2007 4:30:32 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: nativist
Why would China bomb Taiwan to Kingdom Come and then take over an island with ruined infrastructure?

China is NOT going to invade Taiwan.

10 posted on 04/24/2007 4:32:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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>>war predictions based on a computer simulation? huh????<<

Well, the Pentagon certainly uses simulations. you could bet your life they ran simulation prior to both Gulf wars.

But the assumptions that underly those simulations are critical. For example some American naval simulations have assumed it was impossible to lose a modern aircraft carrier.

Check this quote from the article.

“TAIPEI, Taiwan —A computer simulation projected that China could land forces on rival Taiwan, but they would be repulsed after two weeks of fierce fighting and harsh losses to both sides, Taiwan’s military said Tuesday.”

If China decided to invade and risk relations, trade and possible war with America does anybody in their right mind think they would give up after two weeks no matter the losses.


11 posted on 04/24/2007 4:33:33 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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Wasn’t there a computer simulation that showed that if Germany attacked France in 1940, they would make some progress in certain fronts but would be routed and decisively defeated? If not, there should have been. The French Army was larger, better equipped, had the advantage of fighting a defensive battle on their home ground.

No plan survives initial contact with the enemy.


12 posted on 04/24/2007 4:34:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.")
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To: nativist
I doubt it. China could sit back and pound Taiwan into dust from the sea, unless they had to bother with us.

And our soon to be elected Democratic President along with Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi would make China very very sorry for ever starting a war...

13 posted on 04/24/2007 4:35:38 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Why would China bomb Taiwan to Kingdom Come and then take over an island with ruined infrastructure?"

It isn't about the island. It's about "face".

14 posted on 04/24/2007 4:42:48 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The only other option would be for Taiwan to surrender like France. If Taiwan fights like England or Japan did, the only option would be bomb them to Kingdom Come. I’m not talking nukes here.


15 posted on 04/24/2007 4:42:58 AM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: gondramB
They couldn’t afford the humiliation of defeat. They’d be in it to win no matter what the cost.
16 posted on 04/24/2007 4:43:31 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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They couldn’t afford the humiliation of defeat.

Yet another in a long, long list of reasons that China would only attack Taiwan as a last desperate measure to save a crumbling regime -- which is certainly possible.

Taiwan makes a useful bogeyman and patriotic rallying cry for the ChiComs. It takes the spotlight off their own serious internal social problems.

17 posted on 04/24/2007 4:49:48 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Wasn’t there a computer simulation that showed that if Germany attacked France in 1940, they would make some progress in certain fronts but would be routed and decisively defeated? If not, there should have been. The French Army was larger, better equipped, had the advantage of fighting a defensive battle on their home ground. No plan survives initial contact with the enemy.

There were no computers back then. But they probably did run some war games with maps, counters, pencils and dice. They assumed the Germans would not attack through Belgium. Well, the Germans did. So whether the war games mean anything depends on the assumptions. If they handicap the Taiwanese forces to account for Murphy's Law, while adding resources to the Chinese forces in order to account for what they don't know about the Chinese order of battle, they've run an honest simulation. Otherwise, they're just deceiving themselves.

18 posted on 04/24/2007 4:51:24 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: JohnnyZ

Agreed. Just like what triggered the Falkland Islands’ war.


19 posted on 04/24/2007 4:58:12 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: sukhoi-30mki

a rather....optimistic outcome projection.

he said in a supreme understatement.


20 posted on 04/24/2007 5:02:46 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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