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Homeschooler flees state custodyMelissa Busekros surprises parents at 3 a.m.
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 23, 2007 | By Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/23/2007 11:29:24 AM PDT by Dan Evans

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To: stinkerpot65

They invented the state school. The first kindergartens were in Prussia.


21 posted on 04/23/2007 12:08:36 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Dan Evans

bring the religious convictions of the family into line with the unalterable school attendance requirement.”

The state is more powerful than god.


22 posted on 04/23/2007 12:33:25 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
The state is more powerful than god.

The ultimate end goal of this kind of thinking is to convince people that the state is God. I think Ann Coulter once said something to the effect of the big difference between libs and conservatives is that conservatives believe in God, but libs think they are God.
23 posted on 04/23/2007 12:51:31 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Dan Evans

They should have taken their kid and run for it...


24 posted on 04/23/2007 1:37:36 PM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: Dan Evans

“They’re coming to take me away.. haha hoho heehee


25 posted on 04/23/2007 2:50:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dan Evans

“Melissa had fallen behind in math and Latin and was being tutored at home. When school officials in Germany, where homeschooling was banned during Adolf Hitler’s reign of power, found out, she was expelled. School officials then took her to court, obtaining a court order requiring she be committed to a psychiatric ward”

Was this something lost in translation or poor writing?
It appears from this paragraph that she actually attended school.
Otherwise, how could she have fallen behind in two subjects, and be expelled for “receiving home tutoring”??


26 posted on 04/23/2007 3:31:36 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Dan Evans

Eleutherophobia - Fear of freedom.

Look it up.


27 posted on 04/23/2007 3:34:57 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: sarasmom

She was in school. They kicked her out because her parents had the nerve to try to help her with what she didn’t understand. Then the state put her in a mental institution.


28 posted on 04/23/2007 3:59:03 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Dan Evans

Home Schooling was banned by Adolf Hitler.

Home Schooling was banned by Adolf Hitler.


29 posted on 04/23/2007 4:03:48 PM PDT by omega4179 (Ismail Cho Hussein Obama)
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To: Dan Evans

Watch for this story on your next NPR broadcast. /s


30 posted on 04/23/2007 4:10:59 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: sarasmom

She had been attending public school. When she fell behind her parents helped her at home in two subjects. Crazy huh?

Imagine what would have happened if she had dropped out. Everyone would be put in jail.


31 posted on 04/23/2007 4:42:42 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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In order to avoid this in future, the education authority is in conversation with the affected family in order to look for possibilities to bring the religious convictions of the family into line with the unalterable school attendance requirement."

Why aren't these people emigrating to the US as refugees from political/religious persecution?

32 posted on 04/23/2007 7:08:23 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Dan Evans

And this type of society is what our home grown socialist liberals think is worthy of emulation.
How very....odd.


33 posted on 04/23/2007 8:14:47 PM PDT by sarasmom
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I’d thought Germany’s days as a statist tyranny were behind it, but I guess some things just never change.

Rather the opposite is true. Just imagine yourself into the situation of a orthodox muslim girl growing up in Germany. If your parents have the possibility to "homeschool" you you have NO chance to develop your own personality or to break free out of their religious dungeon. Due to our laws i.e. the Turks have to deal with kids in the meantime who already were breathing the odour of freedom. We made good experience with this practice.

There is a wide consensus among the German society that homeschooling is not wanted because we like to see the childrens right on free information assured. On one hand many parents are simply not able to teach their kids due to their own incapability on the other hand it is quite likely that religious extreme parents i.e. deprive the kids the basic information that they need to survive in our society and that they need to think in a free manner. In registered schools certain standarts are guaranteed. Parents have the right to give their kids in private schools that meet that standart and also provide i.e. a religious program of their choice. Nevertheless the individual right of the kids on information will always be more important than the collective right of the families on self-determination in Germany.

It might sound quite offensive, but Evangelical Christian parents (that are those who usually try to homeschool kids in Germany from the Christian side) practically do not play a role in our country since they are only very few people. Pratically irrelevant. It is unlikely that our laws are changed just because of this handful of Christian homeschoolers since we have to deal with much bigger groups (i.e. the 3.7% muslims in Germany) and their wish to open a parallel society. It would be idiotic to do so, since the outcome of such a policy would be for sure disastrous. Then we are not speaking about the Busekos or whatever family anymore, then we are speaking about 500.000 trapped muslim kids. As I already said - Christian parents have the possibility to found religious schools that fit into our basic standarts. Then their kids are provided with the basic information the German society considers as nessecary and the beliefs of their parents at the same time. I have no problem with that.

Therefore homeschooling is forbidden in Germany and that will not change in the future. Other countries, other attitudes.

34 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:39 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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...the education authority is in conversation with the affected family in order to look for possibilities to bring the religious convictions of the family into line with the unalterable school attendance requirement."

Somebody's been channeling Joseph Goebbels again.

35 posted on 04/29/2007 1:02:40 AM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a cloud of quality, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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“I’m thinking it’s time for Melissa’s family to flee Germany. America would probably offer amnesty and American homeschoolers would certainly provide enough to replace their lost property and get her dad a job.

“Probably a few retired spec ops guys who are homeschoolers who might offer assistance in getting across a border or two”


Yep! Where can we donate some cash to help this nice family? To America? Yep, let’s bring them in.

If we homeschoolers don’t keep making open stands for home education, this will come down the pike in the USA, too.

I just today had a meeting with people in Communist China who are homeschooling! They are Christians and are tired of having to straighten out the teaching of the teachers who are trying to teach their children atheistic Marxism. We know of several Christian Day Schools in China associated with unregistered churches. The movement is growing! PLEASE PRAY, CHRISTIANS!

36 posted on 04/29/2007 1:29:35 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Atlantic Bridge
There is a wide consensus among the German society that homeschooling is not wanted because we like to see the childrens right on free information assured.

Melissa Busekros was, from what I have read, attending a government school. She was getting all the indoctrination that the government deemed necessary. The home schooling was supplementary in two subjects where she was falling behind.

So I find it somewhat disingenuous for you to claim that the purpose of a ban on home schooling is to protect her "rights" to all the "information" that she needs. In fact the opposite is true, they want to restrict her parents from conveying information that the state deems offensive. It is quite apparent that the German government sees the school system as an indoctrination center to mold young minds into the ideal of the state and to discourage any diverse ideas that may be inconvenient to the controlling powers.

This whole dismal episode illuminates the supreme folly of those here in the United States who believe that this country should align our laws and customs with those of Europe.

37 posted on 04/30/2007 1:10:33 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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