Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement

(From a thread) | Credit to Spiff for the chart and flashbunny for the grapics

[Jim Robinson]

Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement (and a knife in the back).

The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	SupportsOpposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

[colorcountry]

Who do you support Jim? Did I miss it in the last thread?

[taxesareforever]

Awesome. I just hope those that make the selection do it with eyes wide open. Otherwise this country will be in a world of hurt.

[Politicalmom]

NOOOO!! Not another one!! We’re still trying to finish off the last one!! :)

[Doofer]

(((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING)))))

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Good to see all of that in one place!

[AZRepublican]

Let’s see what positions he takes for the executive office. If he is serious about strict constructionists on the supreme court then he is a very viable choice for any conservative. How many other candidates stand a chance to win PA, OH, NJ, etc?

His personal views should not be a barrier in allowing a liberal an easy walk into the WH.

[Prokopton]

There, quite simply, would no longer be a connection between conservatives and the GOP. The GOP cannot survive without conservatives but I’m not sure the corollary is true.

[pissant]

No knife in the back. His history shows he’s a full fledged liberal, with the exception of tax cuts. If we allow him to win, we’ll deserve the gutting we get.

Fortunately, we have some pretty good options. Starting with Hunter, Thompson and Huckabee. If they all tank, we have Brownback and Romney and Tancredo. If they tank too, we get to choose from McCain and Rudy. Zoinks.

[Jim Robinson]

Good grief. Give us a break from idiocy.

[pissant]

Jim SHOULD be supporting Hunter.

[EternalVigilance]

Daggers in the heart are bad.

Folks better be watching out for the poison in the cup, too...

[colorcountry]

Agreed!

Hunter.

[pissant]

He just repeated that abortion “is a constitutional right” two weeks ago. His version of a strict constructionist ranges from Scalia to Ginsberg. Not too promising.

[Prokopton]

Jim SHOULD be supporting Hunter.

Until Thompson enters the race. : )

[AZRepublican]

>Good grief. Give us a break from idiocy.

It’s not idiocy when considering the realities facing us in 08. I am all for dumping Rudy if I had any confidence a true conservative had a shot of wining the States that will need to be won.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

This is the pledge we should make:

I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season, with every fiber of my conservative being.

(I swiped that from ohioWfan, and it’s an excellent slogan).

Rudy, IMHO cannot pass the test. So, I am obligated to not campaign for him, but for one of the other much more conservatives out there.

[BykrBayb]

Thank you for another good thread.

[Darkwolf377]

I think that's an honest assessment, but if conservatives can't put up a candidate who can actually win the general election, what good are they to the party?

Seriously--if we're thinking people like Tancredo can win in November 08 against Hillary, the party as a whole would only be doing the smart thing looking elsewhere.